How old is this wayspot? I can't believe a fence was approved!
@GearGlider how did you approve and upvote this? Your rating is a 5 star? You are chiming in on other things on foruns saying they are bad submissions? But this? A fence?
It is visually unique and has historic/cultural significance.
It's not a fence. It's THE fence.
Man, this hangover is killer today. I was trying to be funny with the fence comment. But!!!! Really a fence was approved? You are saying visually unique? This has historic and cultural significance? What? This was approved when? Had to slip through a long time ago. I don't see any criteria that would be meet to accept.
@NianticCasey please explain how this meets criteria? It is graffiti on a fence?
If you’re having trouble with that, You’ll get a real kick out of this one.
This one I saw. It has a mural of the soccer club which gives this one credit. A blank wall isn't art.
I don't see any criteria that would be meet to accept.
Visually unique. Historic and Cultural Value. Local Gem.
Great Wall of China is just a fence too...
Just my opinion, but even those pairs of courts are separated by just a small **** of grass, I wouldn't consider submitting them a separate portals. Those are the tennis courts for that park. Without there being some naming difference, I would consider them duplicates. The reasons for being rejected that you got suck and are incorrect, but I wouldn't be wasting much energy on getting that wall or the second set of courts accepted as a new wayspot.
good gravy, you do not want to start on online debate about what does and doesn't qualify as art
I don't think you understand what graffiti is.
I can clearly see you guys don't know what art is after the fence. Maybe Casey can explain better from niantic's perspective.
This fence is really quite special. It has been around nearly 100 years and has been written about in the Guinness World Record Book as being the most painted object before it was replaced after it collapsed under its own weight. Here's the Wikipedia entry for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Mellon_University_traditions#The_Fence
I would not ordinarily consider a fence to be a good candidate, but the history and cultural significance of this one rivals just about any other portal-worthy object.
If it collapsed why is it still in-game?
It was replaced. This particular iteration of the fence is "only" 27 years old, but it carries on the tradition of its predecessor.
They rebuilt it.
They had the technology.
The fence was rebuilt, as pointed out in the earlier comment.
That fence isn't just graffiti on a fence. It's a cultural phenomenon at CMU. I have a key for that fence in my souvenir capsule because that fence is just so much the epitome of life at CMU. It absolutely should be a portal.
Campus groups will camp out near the fence to prevent their message from being painted over. It's like a snooze you lose rule.
It sounds like a fraternity hazing situation. More than anything else.
That is the pure definition of graffiti by the way. As it isn't permanent and can be painted over.
I will not stand for this blatant anti-fence propaganda.
I suggest you read this and take a long think about your ignorance about the history and culture of Pittsburgh.
It is locally significant to Pittsburgh. If there was a similar one in Florida, it would also be valid as it is locally significant to Florida.
Your arguments for this fence, is exactly why people submit submissions of local nfl and college sports teams. Loyalty to their community and favorite teams. The exact same traditions are held at sports games with tailgating in ways.
Exactly why all bars and pubs are allowed. They hold sentiment to local player bases to have a place to enjoy adult beverages and bonding with friends.
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Looks like we are waiting on @NianticCasey To respond to questions. I am sure we all will have more comments afterwards. But yes, your reasoning for "The Fence" is the same as others who are submitting valid things that people are purposely rejecting for wrong reasons.
except that all fences, every single fence ever, is historically and culturally significant (PRP fences excluded of course), unlike pubs and bars, which are only historically or culturally significant if they have a fence or a riot. It’s all detailed out in this document if you care to take a proper gander.
Hi folks, really interesting one here. At first glance (and without access to the supporting explanation) I would agree with the general consensus here that a fence in and of itself isn't necessarily unique, artistic or locally significant. However based on the additional info that @vidicon provided, this would be a local point of interest.
This is one of the reasons why we look to reviewers with local insights. Not being from Pittsburgh, I would have just chalked this up to being a regular old fence and denied it, but locals would know it as a unique local feature, making it eligible. I also chatted with a colleague who is from the area and she agreed that it's a local attraction known even among those who didn't attend the university.
So local significance is important and can be accepted as a result. Thanks for confirming. And other question with the tennis court brick wall the original op submitted? @NianticCasey