😢 ty though this is not what I was hoping for ... also sort of found a 5 letter keyword starting with “i” that would be appropriate... jut when I thought I was closing in
Finally solved it with knowing the final code. I don't like how the challenge is abusing musical notation. You're required to use some basic knowledge about musical notation, but not too much because it will make it impossible to solve. Then there's some rests at the right locations, while others are missing, and they end up meaning nothing.
So, to help anybody with too much musical knowledge:
If you're looking at clefs, you're already thinking too far. If you can read the actual notes/tones, you're too far. But, you still need some of the symbols, and use them in a way like a layman would if they've kinda heard of their meaning before.
If you imagine the piece in the key of B (ignoring sharps and flats) and decode the last four notes as Mi:1 Re:3 Me:1 Do:3 according to the cipher described here:
then you end up with ACAR as the last four letters. This is a totally incorrect approach to the challenge (and one that I pursued myself for some time before giving up on it because of not being able to decode any words from the notes).
Well, I guess everyone is in the same position...the elephant on the room is knowing the first step. Mosts first step seems to be wrong since changing the notes to letters was the wrong direction.
Well that's exactly my point. You don't have to look at them as notes, you look at them as dots on a ladder with some additional symbols. When you have the musical knowledge, there's much more irrelevant information in the image that you wouldn't even notice if you didn't know about them. There have always been red herrings in the puzzles, but this one felt more like a troll (although it probably wasn't intended to be). The solution just feels... unsatisfying. But that's just my opinion.
I was looking for keywords in the document, and ivory isn't one of them. Using a different notation I found 'chase' starting in bar 4 (C=c A=h A=a E=s E=e) which isn't really a long enough word, but nope, it's nothing to do with that.
So I've counted 11/32 of a beat in total for the three beamed notes. Is this correct?! And if so, it doesn't total with the bar above for two-quarter time (assuming both treble/piano and bass/keyboard are being played concurrently)...I thought the three beamed notes should have added to 1/4?!
What you are saying is correct, but I think it isn't related to solving the puzzle. Someone here said that if you are thinking about the note tone and duration, you have gone too far
edit: the music is actually correct, see the dotted 16th next to the 32nd
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You are not on the right path. ACAR is not part of the right result for an intermediate step in decoding this.
this is not Solfa cipher, right?
😢 ty though this is not what I was hoping for ... also sort of found a 5 letter keyword starting with “i” that would be appropriate... jut when I thought I was closing in
Finally solved it with knowing the final code. I don't like how the challenge is abusing musical notation. You're required to use some basic knowledge about musical notation, but not too much because it will make it impossible to solve. Then there's some rests at the right locations, while others are missing, and they end up meaning nothing.
So, to help anybody with too much musical knowledge:
If you're looking at clefs, you're already thinking too far. If you can read the actual notes/tones, you're too far. But, you still need some of the symbols, and use them in a way like a layman would if they've kinda heard of their meaning before.
I’ve been playing with this cipher but apparently I’m forcing it to fit with AR at the end
It is not
So what you are telling me is that I'm WAY overthinking this. I'm counting half steps between notes and trying to sussing out the missing beats.
Ok... Back to square 1.
Thanks, as a musician I am way to far down that rabbit hole. Backing up to start over and trying to keep it basic.
I don't agree. You can solve this perfectly fine with good musical knowledge. Just don't look at it as a musical score, but as a decoding challenge.
I have piano as right hand / keyboard as left hand...makes me assume that these would be the sides of the passcode...
Also assuming that...
Piano is G so CCGCCAA#CDb
Keyboard is F so CDEbGA#E#ECbFD
Now I'm banging my head on the wall.
Same 🤣
where does R come from?
Right, done it. Nearly 9 hours - worst result yet.
Save the sharps and flats and use them later on.
If you imagine the piece in the key of B (ignoring sharps and flats) and decode the last four notes as Mi:1 Re:3 Me:1 Do:3 according to the cipher described here:
then you end up with ACAR as the last four letters. This is a totally incorrect approach to the challenge (and one that I pursued myself for some time before giving up on it because of not being able to decode any words from the notes).
Hmm, perhaps make a song out of this:: "Piano is G, keyboard is F, now I'm banging my head on the wall"?
But no, this is not the correct way to look at the notes. Also, there is no E# or Cb (well, technically there is, but how would you play that?)
That’s what I did ... and then I thought I saw a convoluted way to get IVORY in the keyword area ... waste of time
I could make a song...LOL...
Well, I guess everyone is in the same position...the elephant on the room is knowing the first step. Mosts first step seems to be wrong since changing the notes to letters was the wrong direction.
That’s what I did ... and then I thought I saw a convoluted way to get IVORY in the keyword area ... waste of time
Well that's exactly my point. You don't have to look at them as notes, you look at them as dots on a ladder with some additional symbols. When you have the musical knowledge, there's much more irrelevant information in the image that you wouldn't even notice if you didn't know about them. There have always been red herrings in the puzzles, but this one felt more like a troll (although it probably wasn't intended to be). The solution just feels... unsatisfying. But that's just my opinion.
Piano is G
Keyboard is F
Bang my head on the wall
Now why is there a clef?
I was looking for keywords in the document, and ivory isn't one of them. Using a different notation I found 'chase' starting in bar 4 (C=c A=h A=a E=s E=e) which isn't really a long enough word, but nope, it's nothing to do with that.
Solved! 🤦♂️
Hint: Think that you are alone and only have one instrument and you must play the song with it.
Extra hint: do not ofuscate/obcecate looking for a decode method.
Some of the musical notation in this puzzle is only put there for "atmosphere" and to make it look a bit like real music.
I know :-) Still, the concept of what a clef does is somewhat... insightful.
I have no musical knowledge... so now what?
Read the Wikipedia page on what symbols on a musical sheet do.
So I've counted 11/32 of a beat in total for the three beamed notes. Is this correct?! And if so, it doesn't total with the bar above for two-quarter time (assuming both treble/piano and bass/keyboard are being played concurrently)...I thought the three beamed notes should have added to 1/4?!
What you are saying is correct, but I think it isn't related to solving the puzzle.Someone here said that if you are thinking about the note tone and duration, you have gone too faredit: the music is actually correct, see the dotted 16th next to the 32nd
Never studied for a musician, but even my level of knowledge was high enough to distract me from the solution.
This seems as a kind of a riddle a child will solve much easier than an adult