We aren’t going to do yet another key locker in the short term. Instead, we’re working on a monthly subscription program that will include additional inventory space as well as other benefits in 2020.
So it's not the same as buying items for anomalies with character medals? Yet every anomaly has loadout packs with character medals...
It seems to be the same thing to me.
Either way it's not like you can keep buying these it's one time only like Brian said. After it's gone it's gone. Just like load out codes, just like anomaly packs, just like FS packs.
It's not like these come with a thousand bursters and VRLAs. It's pretty close to every single loadout I've gotten.
You still have to play the game. The existence of this changes absolutely nothing. I don't hear people complaining at anomalies and 1331 events about the gear cards, all of which you pay for. Again none of which is enough to give anyone an unfair advantage. You still have to farm. And high level gear is still incredibly rare in the store. To my knowledge since the store came out high level items were only rare limited time drops. Not permanently available at all.
It's purchasing of l8 and VR gear in the store. It was nice with cards because the purchaser could give the codes to others to redeem.
Niantic tried this a few years ago and it was a complete *&($show. It's wedging the door open to make it more pay2win again. It's BS. They promised it wouldn't be done in the future. Now @NianticBrian is basically telling us he doesn't care about past commitments Niantic has made to the player base.
That makes it not just about selling gear at this point, regardless of how infrequent it may be, it speaks about how Niantic is going to treat us going forward. They're hopping back on the slippery ****. It's especially insane because for half the price people would be willing to dump money into CMU to buy just the badges by themselves.
Seems completely shortsighted to be doing this again. Not going to be sticking around to watch Brian (unknowingly) try to **** the game.
Where were you when they sold them as codes? Literally no difference except you can't send emergency passcodes which is definitely more pay to win than a limited time offer
Right because 40 bursters is really going to make it pay to win.
I like them doing this over pure gear. Ton of badges I wanted but never were at events I went to. And I'm not using the tos violating black market item brokers to get them.
Niantic still has to deal with the black market and how to combat it. This way players can get a cool badges on their profile, Niantic can make money from ingress regularly by offering things players want. And Niantic can crack down on the prevalent black market. By restricting distribution to 1/player on their store it makes it impossible to feed things such as badges to the black market.
Niantic is still a company which needs to make money, Just like every single other game company in existence. People won't work on ingress for free out of the good of their heart. Real people have real bills to pay and they still have to eat. You either pay for the game upfront or in transactions in game, or a subscription service to the game. Nothing here is new in the slightest.
And still you don't need to buy anything to play the game. It's completely optional, Niantic isn't locking your scanner and the only way to keep playing is to buy stuff for the store. You can buy the pack or not. It doesn't matter either way.
Please stop pay-to-win! Don't buy this, people. Please Niantic, find other ways to make money. I'll happily pay an anual fee to play Ingress if you stop all pay-to-win.
At anomaly sites, buying the cards. I still have most of them, unredeemed, waiting to hand out to players in need.
The original reason everyone revolted against this a few years ago was because for most players, building l8 portals takes time and coordination. It robs us of the social aspect of the game.
Gear codes are cool because while it's purchasing this year, you could still sit on it and hand it to someone else, maintaining the social aspect, regardless of where that person was in the world. This is just edging us back towards pay2win garbage.
I'm happy to see a single use item similar to what's offered during Anomolies available to help keep Ingress financially viable.
Can I suggest a few ideas?
Anniversary logo key lockers, only available for the years you had an account. Everyone eventually benefits, and long time Agents get an option to buy a special perk. I think with Prime the new graphics may be able to support this.
Media lockers that don't count towards cap for the packrats who want to keep all the media.
As many have said here and elsewhere I would love to be able to purchase just the medal. @NianticBrian would the team consider adding another option for just the medal at a slightly reduced price?
As someone who bought VR kits at nearly every Anomaly the appeal of those kits was mainly that the gear could be saved for a rainy day, gifted to other agents, and sometimes used as rewards for player organized events like IFS.
Since the reintroduction of digital kits I haven't made a purchase because I simply don't want the gear in the kit myself. Would gladly pay for just a medal which was why I supported the Umbra Anomaly with a digital medal purchase.
Will people quit complaining about the extra gear with the character medal. 🙄 Every anomaly for the last 3 years has had gear load outs purchasable. Quit acting like it's new or something to rage about. It's available only once per month.
You're going to make the argument that it's to combat the grey market sellers and at the same time try to say it's "only 40 bursters"? @NianticBrian is writing a very clear message on the wall, if you can't read it (this is going to start easing us into regualar l8/VR gear sales), I'm just going to have to feel sorry for you.
This, IMO, is a big giant dagger in the heart of the game.
Quit being butthurt about a little gear with an older Character code. Sheesh. This is about double the gear you get from a restock portal after FS 12 times a year.
If it really hurts that badly, It sounds like you were already on your way out, so cyah!
You're going to make the argument that it's to combat the grey market sellers and at the same time try to say it's "only 40 bursters"? @NianticBrian is writing a very clear message on the wall, if you can't read it (this is going to start easing us into regualar l8/VR gear sales), I'm just going to have to feel sorry for you.
I'm disappointed in the gear selling aspect of this package. Sure, it's a limited one time offer-but how many other "limited one time offers" are we going to see?
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Is this on the end of the roladex or somewhere else?
Nvm. Got it
2014 Klue please
Stop with L8 and VR items in store and listen on agents feedback!
We aren’t going to do yet another key locker in the short term. Instead, we’re working on a monthly subscription program that will include additional inventory space as well as other benefits in 2020.
2014 Klue!
So it's not the same as buying items for anomalies with character medals? Yet every anomaly has loadout packs with character medals...
It seems to be the same thing to me.
Either way it's not like you can keep buying these it's one time only like Brian said. After it's gone it's gone. Just like load out codes, just like anomaly packs, just like FS packs.
It's not like these come with a thousand bursters and VRLAs. It's pretty close to every single loadout I've gotten.
You still have to play the game. The existence of this changes absolutely nothing. I don't hear people complaining at anomalies and 1331 events about the gear cards, all of which you pay for. Again none of which is enough to give anyone an unfair advantage. You still have to farm. And high level gear is still incredibly rare in the store. To my knowledge since the store came out high level items were only rare limited time drops. Not permanently available at all.
Klue and OLW, please.
Other benefits something like 2x/3x AP item?
I don't have this medal, would love to get it...
Wait a minute...
We can't rearrange the medal...
Screws up my characters sequence...
I would definitely take up all the ADA medals. 💙
It's purchasing of l8 and VR gear in the store. It was nice with cards because the purchaser could give the codes to others to redeem.
Niantic tried this a few years ago and it was a complete *&($show. It's wedging the door open to make it more pay2win again. It's BS. They promised it wouldn't be done in the future. Now @NianticBrian is basically telling us he doesn't care about past commitments Niantic has made to the player base.
That makes it not just about selling gear at this point, regardless of how infrequent it may be, it speaks about how Niantic is going to treat us going forward. They're hopping back on the slippery ****. It's especially insane because for half the price people would be willing to dump money into CMU to buy just the badges by themselves.
Seems completely shortsighted to be doing this again. Not going to be sticking around to watch Brian (unknowingly) try to **** the game.
The 2018 Acolyte, OLW and PAC. (The same series as this version of Hank) 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hey,
some have 5 key locker and others 6 key locker - should one perhaps correct this small imbalance?
Thx ;)
I don't hate this. Basically the same as a load out.
So some will have 7 and some 5...?
@NianticBrian just raise the limit to 6 keylockers. We want to buy it. The giveaway prevented some from buying it 5 times.
Where were you when they sold them as codes? Literally no difference except you can't send emergency passcodes which is definitely more pay to win than a limited time offer
Right because 40 bursters is really going to make it pay to win.
I like them doing this over pure gear. Ton of badges I wanted but never were at events I went to. And I'm not using the tos violating black market item brokers to get them.
Niantic still has to deal with the black market and how to combat it. This way players can get a cool badges on their profile, Niantic can make money from ingress regularly by offering things players want. And Niantic can crack down on the prevalent black market. By restricting distribution to 1/player on their store it makes it impossible to feed things such as badges to the black market.
Niantic is still a company which needs to make money, Just like every single other game company in existence. People won't work on ingress for free out of the good of their heart. Real people have real bills to pay and they still have to eat. You either pay for the game upfront or in transactions in game, or a subscription service to the game. Nothing here is new in the slightest.
And still you don't need to buy anything to play the game. It's completely optional, Niantic isn't locking your scanner and the only way to keep playing is to buy stuff for the store. You can buy the pack or not. It doesn't matter either way.
Please stop pay-to-win! Don't buy this, people. Please Niantic, find other ways to make money. I'll happily pay an anual fee to play Ingress if you stop all pay-to-win.
You do make a good point on passcodes like that make it more pay to win over a one time offer
At anomaly sites, buying the cards. I still have most of them, unredeemed, waiting to hand out to players in need.
The original reason everyone revolted against this a few years ago was because for most players, building l8 portals takes time and coordination. It robs us of the social aspect of the game.
Gear codes are cool because while it's purchasing this year, you could still sit on it and hand it to someone else, maintaining the social aspect, regardless of where that person was in the world. This is just edging us back towards pay2win garbage.
I'm happy to see a single use item similar to what's offered during Anomolies available to help keep Ingress financially viable.
Can I suggest a few ideas?
Anniversary logo key lockers, only available for the years you had an account. Everyone eventually benefits, and long time Agents get an option to buy a special perk. I think with Prime the new graphics may be able to support this.
Media lockers that don't count towards cap for the packrats who want to keep all the media.
Original ADA character is one I'd buy and I'm one that doesn't really care for Character cards. 😎
As many have said here and elsewhere I would love to be able to purchase just the medal. @NianticBrian would the team consider adding another option for just the medal at a slightly reduced price?
As someone who bought VR kits at nearly every Anomaly the appeal of those kits was mainly that the gear could be saved for a rainy day, gifted to other agents, and sometimes used as rewards for player organized events like IFS.
Since the reintroduction of digital kits I haven't made a purchase because I simply don't want the gear in the kit myself. Would gladly pay for just a medal which was why I supported the Umbra Anomaly with a digital medal purchase.
Will people quit complaining about the extra gear with the character medal. 🙄 Every anomaly for the last 3 years has had gear load outs purchasable. Quit acting like it's new or something to rage about. It's available only once per month.
You're going to make the argument that it's to combat the grey market sellers and at the same time try to say it's "only 40 bursters"? @NianticBrian is writing a very clear message on the wall, if you can't read it (this is going to start easing us into regualar l8/VR gear sales), I'm just going to have to feel sorry for you.
This, IMO, is a big giant dagger in the heart of the game.
Really well done. I've heard lots and lots of positive feedback on both the vintage Hank pack and the avatar 'flair'.
Thanks for continuing to develop the game, find ways to monetize that don't break the spirit of the game, and show that you are listening!
Quit being butthurt about a little gear with an older Character code. Sheesh. This is about double the gear you get from a restock portal after FS 12 times a year.
If it really hurts that badly, It sounds like you were already on your way out, so cyah!
You're going to make the argument that it's to combat the grey market sellers and at the same time try to say it's "only 40 bursters"? @NianticBrian is writing a very clear message on the wall, if you can't read it (this is going to start easing us into regualar l8/VR gear sales), I'm just going to have to feel sorry for you.
Anyways, I'm out.
That's literally the definition of pay to win. Not a one time thing in game.
You still have to farm for your gear. Packs are a nice boost but not designed to help win anything. You still have to do the work.
People buy the packs for the badges. The gear is just a nice bonus.
I'm disappointed in the gear selling aspect of this package. Sure, it's a limited one time offer-but how many other "limited one time offers" are we going to see?
Sell the medals without the gear in the future.