Really Niantic XF-Shards? You destroy the game I liked to play. Ingress is a competitive game between two factions and not like PoGo or HPWU. I'm disappointed, what you make with this game.
Shardgame was a tactical game between the two factions, now it is a cuddle event😕
Dear NIA. I'm playing ingress for 4 years. It was beautiful competition game, that make players think about strategies. Make players count all their neighbors from other faction, while building the fields, make at least crazy operations from hard-reachable portals and what we see now? You are making PoGo from our game, making some literally crazy events with crazy bonuses. Seriously, adding new glyphs as a prize? Thanks a lot, I have learned enough. - 33% off drop? The frackers don't care about it at all. I don't even tell about this aurora hack challenge rules - I have no idea who invented it, but congrats, about 90% of players, i guess, thinking about him - HOW HE DID THIS.
We want competition! Why you cant count total number as a sum of results of factions. Faction with greater number takes some more bonuses. Fair? Fair. Ah, spoofers, they will change the result... Maybe doing something with them then? We really will prefer rare ivents without spoofers, than more often and not fair. Why don't you want add some new things? Why not to give rare lamps for example +1 outside link? Sometimes it's needed, but it's pity to use SBUL for it. Why not to make turrets give +10-20% output from portals - this will remove "useless mods". Why not to make XM lockers, analog of lawsons, that you can fill, while walking and collecting XM. 5 per account will be enough and it will make fighting a bit more interesting, in condition of common playing.
What event will be next? Moving red portals with 1000000 energy and auto adding shields that we will have to destroy together? We will have to spend fixed number of staff to get badges of anomalies? Maybe we will have to make missions during anomalies and count average number per team? (why hacks better, uh?) NIA, you want make us all friends, OK. We have this FS for it, but give us opportunity to fight, to compete, to beat another faction. Make some constant medals for destroyed fields and links. We have this statistic in scanner since beginning, but still only in numbers. And for every event we have a medal, where you clean numbers. Why? Delete one more compete reason? Well done, but maybe ask players on forum, which events they want to see? Which bonuses will be useful/useless. For example adding 5 different media per hack if lose will motivate to complete the challenge, rather more then increase of decaying. Hey, we have no guardians to care about it. If you have no idea what to do - ask us. A lot of players have more experience, than you, and they can play a big role in future of the game we all lo(i)ve. Thank you.
And we achieve nothing... Other than revealing our own faction ability in given areas.
A badge, yay, got plenty, could have had more, the competition is what makes ingress fun - when there is no competition its just a drawing game, dot to dot...
Dear Niantic. Today you disappoint a lot of agents who really like Ingress, really like battles against other faction.
I understand that for current story line the xfac global shards is something that should happen. BUT it comes against of the Ingress spirit.
Many of Enlightened and Resistance agents truly enjoyed the battle between faction. But for this... I have no words. Only disappoinment that our lovely ingress is one step closer to PoGo or Wu.
Maybe it's time for the new players to take over completely
I gave Prime a chance over and over again (it's not as bad as most "old" agents say and it's getting better with every new (beta) version but freezing and having to restart at least every 90 Minutes is really annoying)
They didn't even managa to fix the gmail bug after nearly a year (OPR is still not working for those who were a victim of that)
I even gave the new events a chance even so they weren't clearly my art of playing.
guess it's time to finally retire together with redacted and make room for new players.
I'm not against XF, I organised MDs, went to multiple XF Meet Ups, had a lot of fun without the boundaries of the faction but XF shards is just to much for me
Maybe I'll just retire or sabotage the event by crosslinking or fielding over the shards and being the antimate for both factions but this just isn't my ingress any more😔
It were a lot of fun times but everything has an end.
I disagree, I've spent the last few months doing XFact meets and socials, and I've had way more fun than I ever did choosing sides. I just wish I hadn't listened to the RCHQ leaders all those years, and realised that actually the other team are decent people.
I'm looking forward to having a social or three over this event , but I fully appreciate your view point.
Maybe it's just the evolutionary path NIA wants ingress to take ?
Apparently Niantic doesn't want another Enlightened blowout win just like the one we got in the 2017 Global Shards event, so what better way to protect their dearly beloved resistance players by forcing us to work with them.
The premise of the game was always two factions against each other. Don't take this away from us.
Ingress was always about confrontation between Enlightened and Resistance. People joining not to create fields or capture portal. They join it because they can have some struggle with live people.
Thing like this event **** all of this spirit. This way **** Ingress.
Global shards is not First Saturday or Mission Day. Even on FS you have a competition between factions and agent from them.
So just to make sure, all you have to do, to get the badge, considering we gather 6 shards at least, is make one hack, just one single hack, between 17th and 30th of September?
That seems preposterous. One hack during 2 weeks for a badge? Via lux explorers must be shitting their pants right about now.
Also, as a former pogo player and semi active WU player, i don't like this new "agents vs random rules for events" wave . The classic "agents vs agents" is what keeps ingress alive. If i want to co-op with everyone i can just play A fortress or do a raid.
Everyone should be grateful they didn't enact the decay first, so your field and shard anchors don't go down until after the event. We survived in 2014, we'll survive again. If you don't want to XF, simply step aside and let those who do, get involved. Worked for me with the teal fields in 2014.
Agents, if Niantic doesn't change event rules we still have the opportunity to show to Niantic that we are different. That we still love competitive Ingress.
We can play in this event. Move shards to nodes. But WITHOUT colobaration. If Enlightened capture shard they should move it by green link to the green node which they should make green without any help from resistance. And at the same time Resistance should try to recapture this shard. And do with it the same things.
We can play this event without any colobaration. We can play it as we always do it. As it must be done in competitive Ingress.
We can play this event by our own rules. And I hope this can show to Niantic how we love true Ingress.
I would argue a more effective display of disgust with the "challenge" ruleset would be actively play and do something entirely unrelated to the challenge.
I'm all for fun community events, but at its core Ingress is a competitive game. This isn't the game I've been playing for the past 7 years and not a game that I'm sure I want to continue to play. Redacted sunset was probably not the best time to do this either, given that beta players are uninstalling in droves. Niantic is just as out of touch as ever. Sad day.
And here I thought the Swiss were salty over Helvetica.
Global shards work great in places like Europe, where it isn't much of an exaggeration to say that you have agents no more than an hour out from any given portal. Here in Canada, however, we have vast expanses of empty land where MU stands for Moose Units. So I'm not going to weep over not having to travel 3 hours outside of town a half dozen times.
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Amen to that! 🙌
So if you don't want a badge, what actually constitutes active? Recharging? Hacking ? Linking?
Really Niantic XF-Shards? You destroy the game I liked to play. Ingress is a competitive game between two factions and not like PoGo or HPWU. I'm disappointed, what you make with this game.
Shardgame was a tactical game between the two factions, now it is a cuddle event😕
Please Niantic, go back to the roots of Ingress.
It literally says "hacking" in the announcement.
X-fac shards? Lmao has Niantic ever played this game before....
I think this is a wonderfully crafted and augmented challenge.
We get to work together in a common goal and unite as one team.
If you don't want to play then you don't have too :)
Good on you NIA for trying something new :)
Dear NIA. I'm playing ingress for 4 years. It was beautiful competition game, that make players think about strategies. Make players count all their neighbors from other faction, while building the fields, make at least crazy operations from hard-reachable portals and what we see now? You are making PoGo from our game, making some literally crazy events with crazy bonuses. Seriously, adding new glyphs as a prize? Thanks a lot, I have learned enough. - 33% off drop? The frackers don't care about it at all. I don't even tell about this aurora hack challenge rules - I have no idea who invented it, but congrats, about 90% of players, i guess, thinking about him - HOW HE DID THIS.
We want competition! Why you cant count total number as a sum of results of factions. Faction with greater number takes some more bonuses. Fair? Fair. Ah, spoofers, they will change the result... Maybe doing something with them then? We really will prefer rare ivents without spoofers, than more often and not fair. Why don't you want add some new things? Why not to give rare lamps for example +1 outside link? Sometimes it's needed, but it's pity to use SBUL for it. Why not to make turrets give +10-20% output from portals - this will remove "useless mods". Why not to make XM lockers, analog of lawsons, that you can fill, while walking and collecting XM. 5 per account will be enough and it will make fighting a bit more interesting, in condition of common playing.
What event will be next? Moving red portals with 1000000 energy and auto adding shields that we will have to destroy together? We will have to spend fixed number of staff to get badges of anomalies? Maybe we will have to make missions during anomalies and count average number per team? (why hacks better, uh?) NIA, you want make us all friends, OK. We have this FS for it, but give us opportunity to fight, to compete, to beat another faction. Make some constant medals for destroyed fields and links. We have this statistic in scanner since beginning, but still only in numbers. And for every event we have a medal, where you clean numbers. Why? Delete one more compete reason? Well done, but maybe ask players on forum, which events they want to see? Which bonuses will be useful/useless. For example adding 5 different media per hack if lose will motivate to complete the challenge, rather more then increase of decaying. Hey, we have no guardians to care about it. If you have no idea what to do - ask us. A lot of players have more experience, than you, and they can play a big role in future of the game we all lo(i)ve. Thank you.
And we achieve nothing... Other than revealing our own faction ability in given areas.
A badge, yay, got plenty, could have had more, the competition is what makes ingress fun - when there is no competition its just a drawing game, dot to dot...
Dear Niantic. Today you disappoint a lot of agents who really like Ingress, really like battles against other faction.
I understand that for current story line the xfac global shards is something that should happen. BUT it comes against of the Ingress spirit.
Many of Enlightened and Resistance agents truly enjoyed the battle between faction. But for this... I have no words. Only disappoinment that our lovely ingress is one step closer to PoGo or Wu.
Please, change this event asap.
Guessing the old Ingress really is dying...
Maybe it's time for the new players to take over completely
I gave Prime a chance over and over again (it's not as bad as most "old" agents say and it's getting better with every new (beta) version but freezing and having to restart at least every 90 Minutes is really annoying)
They didn't even managa to fix the gmail bug after nearly a year (OPR is still not working for those who were a victim of that)
I even gave the new events a chance even so they weren't clearly my art of playing.
guess it's time to finally retire together with redacted and make room for new players.
I'm not against XF, I organised MDs, went to multiple XF Meet Ups, had a lot of fun without the boundaries of the faction but XF shards is just to much for me
Maybe I'll just retire or sabotage the event by crosslinking or fielding over the shards and being the antimate for both factions but this just isn't my ingress any more😔
It were a lot of fun times but everything has an end.
We always talked about the Global Shards as a showdown.
Showdown of the craziest, most clever, most hardcore players of the game. Real people vs real people. Ideology vs ideology.
Avenir shards is like if two soccer teams teamed up and started punching balls into the empty gates. Fun to watch.
This is not PoGo nor Potter. Green vs blue, 2 opposite sides is the essence of the game. Don't take that essence away.
Oh dear.
Guys! We need to win this!
Those increased portal decay rates are murderous
I disagree, I've spent the last few months doing XFact meets and socials, and I've had way more fun than I ever did choosing sides. I just wish I hadn't listened to the RCHQ leaders all those years, and realised that actually the other team are decent people.
I'm looking forward to having a social or three over this event , but I fully appreciate your view point.
Maybe it's just the evolutionary path NIA wants ingress to take ?
XF Shards sounds interesting.
Be good to see how it shapes out for sure. :)
This sounds like a scoccer match where the two teams are on the same side of the pitch and spike the ball into an empty goal.
Oh and where prizes are distributed to everyone in the stadium if the players score enough goals.
Now I'm not at all against all xf events by principle (the global hack challenge was ok) but what is the interest in this event?
Global shards used to be the pinnacle of competitive Ingress (more so than anomalies as they lasted weeks with battles every jump).
Apparently Niantic doesn't want another Enlightened blowout win just like the one we got in the 2017 Global Shards event, so what better way to protect their dearly beloved resistance players by forcing us to work with them.
The premise of the game was always two factions against each other. Don't take this away from us.
#KeepIngressFun
Ingress was always about confrontation between Enlightened and Resistance. People joining not to create fields or capture portal. They join it because they can have some struggle with live people.
Thing like this event **** all of this spirit. This way **** Ingress.
Global shards is not First Saturday or Mission Day. Even on FS you have a competition between factions and agent from them.
Yes, they're perfect for rebuild AP.
How many events/challenges has Ingress had so far. How many of those were xfac events/challenges?
We've had plenty of social beers with the other faction before and after anomalies. They were plenty competitive.
Or the Resistance blowout 13-0 Shonin win, if we're measuring.
So just to make sure, all you have to do, to get the badge, considering we gather 6 shards at least, is make one hack, just one single hack, between 17th and 30th of September?
That seems preposterous. One hack during 2 weeks for a badge? Via lux explorers must be shitting their pants right about now.
Also, as a former pogo player and semi active WU player, i don't like this new "agents vs random rules for events" wave . The classic "agents vs agents" is what keeps ingress alive. If i want to co-op with everyone i can just play A fortress or do a raid.
Send all the shards to me, I'm on an isolated island with one portal. I'll keep them safe.
Devra Virus Mk 2.
Everyone should be grateful they didn't enact the decay first, so your field and shard anchors don't go down until after the event. We survived in 2014, we'll survive again. If you don't want to XF, simply step aside and let those who do, get involved. Worked for me with the teal fields in 2014.
Agents, if Niantic doesn't change event rules we still have the opportunity to show to Niantic that we are different. That we still love competitive Ingress.
We can play in this event. Move shards to nodes. But WITHOUT colobaration. If Enlightened capture shard they should move it by green link to the green node which they should make green without any help from resistance. And at the same time Resistance should try to recapture this shard. And do with it the same things.
We can play this event without any colobaration. We can play it as we always do it. As it must be done in competitive Ingress.
We can play this event by our own rules. And I hope this can show to Niantic how we love true Ingress.
I would argue a more effective display of disgust with the "challenge" ruleset would be actively play and do something entirely unrelated to the challenge.
I'm all for fun community events, but at its core Ingress is a competitive game. This isn't the game I've been playing for the past 7 years and not a game that I'm sure I want to continue to play. Redacted sunset was probably not the best time to do this either, given that beta players are uninstalling in droves. Niantic is just as out of touch as ever. Sad day.
Okay... Am I missing something here? It's just one XFAC event. It's not like we're not going back to competing right after.
And here I thought the Swiss were salty over Helvetica.
Global shards work great in places like Europe, where it isn't much of an exaggeration to say that you have agents no more than an hour out from any given portal. Here in Canada, however, we have vast expanses of empty land where MU stands for Moose Units. So I'm not going to weep over not having to travel 3 hours outside of town a half dozen times.