Unless they do more than tweaks, it'll just be back to the same old problem.
Like I said above, because there's no player method of strategic control with Machina, there's no gameplay aspect that won't get swamped.
I think the general consensus at the moment is "We'll wait it out in the hopes of tweaks/wipes after the anomaly series ends".
I think that's going to be a "make-or-break"-moment for many agents considering quitting the game.
"But but but! You can just play vs machina!!!!!"
Very true! But machina doesn't sleep or have any travel limitations or fuel costs. And that's what is off-putting about the current situation for me personally.
Fingers crossed for changes...
I've been playing vs machina for the past 2 weeks, unlike most agents who refuse to touch it, and I can say I've had absolutely zero satisfaction from playing against it, I've used around 4000 bursters which I've had to hack, I've had zero Opposition which is normally what happens when trying to field, and I've used alot of fuel going to places I wouldn't normally need to, myself i have alot of free time but alot of people don't even have the time or the portals to hack for kit to take on the bot. In short, this machina suites maybe 5% of the player base and everyone else (if you have no car and not much free time) forget it.
It isn't like there's a choice, is there? Considering there has been literally NO response from anyone at niantic to the many MANY player concerns voiced here.
The only areas that are getting out of control with machina are areas with no players. Areas with players have very little machina. Seems like it is working as intended. I've gotten a lot of ap by taking it down. I just wait for it to grow into something worth taking out. It's more fun than battling the actual opponent. All they ever do is play griefgress.
That list of "no players" area grows with Machina though. So it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. People don't want to play with Machina, Machina grows, people want to play with it less. There's no way a player can strategically affect it, because it constantly just respawns like a deathmatch where you get 1 life, and the opponent has unlimited.
That's just not true, my city has about 10 to 20 players and the red is out of control because there's just too many portals and ground to cover with very few people (including myself) not wanting to waste the time and effort on clearing something that will be back worse within a week
I mean the list has been growing since Prime's launch. It just adds on to people playing less overall.
I think the hard part is fine tuning the machina. It's obviously not going to fit a "one fits all" situation but the current implementation could have been done better.
Machina has been showing the problems we have in the portal network. Not every portal is the same when it comes to feasibility and/or access. I would think machina would be weighted towards clusters to spread versus any neutral portal.
Yeah, lots of backyard portals are now showing up now. Even those that Niantic refuses to delete. Maybe the force of Machina is to get us to help Niantic clean up their POI network? No wait. They'd actually remove those portals in people's yards if that were the case.
Niantic has announced that there will be a slowdown, inventing a story in lore and to justify it, but I hope it will also apply a strong reduction in the portals it currently controls.
in my opinion machina is the biggest fail of NIA applied to ingress, personally I give it time until the Palermo anomaly, after which if machina is still the master of intel I will cancel the game of my mobile phone. I have neither time nor desire to face it, I also spent too much fuel an time on it.
i really hope there will be more or i will be challenging to find the 100 reclaimers in november
Please Niantic, get rid of it.
Our enemy faction at home, they remove our Machina blocks and just let the red spread and sit back and laugh.
If machina is not bought under control, this anomaly will probably be my last. Sick of wasting fuel chasing an unsleeping opponent.
Wasting fuel, wasting fuel, wasting fuel...
You are wasting fuel on a mobile app with or without machina. If you stop machina is really doing someting good for the enviroment.
Highly disagree. You frequently must go out of your way to clear red in areas that NO ONE PLAYS IN in order to field or in order to clear those one or two portals that frequently derps through a play area. Even though Machina is only throwing 4 km, some people forget about those natural features, such as rivers, mountains, valleys, hills, lakes, ect that you can't travel straight through. Gotta go around. It eats up extra fuel and extra time. It's a place you don't often go or wouldn't go at all.
Trying to contain, and eradicate Machina is a pain, because whatever faction is trying to clean it up, the other faction is dead set on one color, and it's not red.
I mean we're pretty much playing in areas that no one plays in when looking at Ingress. 😂🙃
The game is broken, i stop my CORE i need the money for gasoline , just driving for red portals to do nothing, Core already to expensive, you are **** the game
start with smaller field and get bigger, recharge, clear and you dont have that problem over time.
Big fields are now a challange again and nothing you get "for free" because you can easly make them in dead areas and recharge them infinite.
That's one way to play with machina. Let them do all the work. And it's effective
Great idea! Too bad the other faction consistently tears down the smaller fields we keep making to attempt to contain the Machina, so we can clear it. Other faction agent ignores red portals, heads to the portal keeping the red from mutating all over the place. One went down 2 hours ago. Since then, 3 red derps have blocked said field from a location that isn't accessible during the week.
But the four around it and two of them in places you can't go or find anyone on your side to go which locks your portal out.
The fact that today machina has massively decayed and there's tonnes of people out playing just proves that machina is bad for the game and bad for niantic. Don't let it come back I see no point in making the game go dead for 4 months at a time, look at the amount of people active today niantic...isn't it obvious that machina shouldn't come back
I just see the same few people doing the same stuff as the days before.
I'm not against machina being paused occasionally but the full decay is disappointing. Two areas I had planned on clearing out on my day off this week are quickly losing all their machina portals and I won't get any extra AP or reclaimer points for capturing decayed machina.
Wow machina is already almost gone ? they went quicker then i thought... makes no sense when there is a permanent badge for it
It's too bad we couldn't keep taking them down to work on the badge. I didn't realize they would just go away. I thought they were going to stop linking. That's a shame. They were fun while we had them. They finally change the game a little bit and then back out.
I also ended up here since almost all machina portals disappeared - its so sad to see.
for me it made the game fun, challening and rewarding to explore areas that havent been touched in a while.
I hope machina comes back soon (but maybe a little bit nerfed?)
In Milan today there were many more people out and about than usual
Definitely keep it around for portal jumping, but reduce the linking. Nice to have portals around to get badges for destruction
Nobody different out today, the same full time Ingress players and a few tourists but that's it. Most people are upset it went away.
Came by the forums to see what happened to them all. I was making a route to clean up the town of them efficiently since I had a day off coming, and now they're all gone. Am sad. I understand they spread too fast for some, but for my empty town, it was welcomed. Hopefully, comes back.