Letters in Missions / Banners

ChamyraChamyra ✭✭✭
edited April 2022 in General

Dear Niantic, there is an unofficial rule about letters in Missions. They are a no-go if they are single letters, it's said. The reason given for it is, that some agents spelled out their own crude messages in their scanner using missions with single letters and recombining them. So far, understandable. Nobody really wants to read that stuff when looking on someones missions. Anyway, I have more than one problem with the current handling:

1. Even years after, there still is no written rule about it.

2. Even worse, there is still no email template for it, spelling out that exact reason in the rejection mail. How hard can that be? :(

3. Even missions that 

- contain more than a single letter or 

- where the letter is only partially visible or 

- where the letter is not even visible in scanner anymore 

- where the letter isn't even a letter but a glyph get rejected for that reason.

I collected a few examples:

4. On the other hand, those same and other missions with the same issue get accepted: 

5. Old missions with single letters are still online, can still be combined as you like as long as you are willing to travel for it. (Don't understand me wrong, I don't want them removed.)

6. Finally, afaik those crude messages in peoples scanners are still there until today.

So, why all the hassle? Why not make it a rule, that crude messages spelled in scanners are handled like bad behavior in chat? And remove those missions from the agent's profile if need be? 

As it is right now, all it does, is making us jump through loops to get our missions approved. You want us to be creative and design our own banners. But if we do, we get problems again and again. I could also live with the current situation, if it would be handled in a straight line with clear communication. But that's not the case! So please, change something about it. Thanks!

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  • MorganzaMorganza ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh, it's even worse -- the rule against having single letters in mission art used to be in the guidelines and was REMOVED.

  • MxxMxx ✭✭✭✭

    Or let's ban letters in comm because agents can compose bad words from them. 🙄

    It's a stupid rule that should be abolished and mission reviewers retrained.

  • MoogModularMoogModular ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can we just dump out the Niantic reviewers and push missions to the Wayfarer queue? I feel like this will just lead to better results overall at this point. Either you have people who don't know about missions reviewing these or you are somehow outsourcing the review process.

  • MorganzaMorganza ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wayfarer produces a valuable commercial product for Niantic. There is no way to monetize missions because so much of the art violates copyright or IP rights.

  • This a very bad idea, at my country wayfarer system is very not useful. Because new fake's candidate wayspot with fake GSV or fake editing with command description to influence reviewers, Very highly to be accepted. If niantic push mission to the wayfarer queue, i think many agent will be complain later.

  • ChamyraChamyra ✭✭✭
    edited April 2022

    No, that's a very bad idea. Wayfarer has in some areas long review times. Sometimes you wait for half a year to get your portal submissions reviewed. Adapting the same system to missions would make the creation of time sensitive/seasonal mission art impossible in these areas.

    Also, Wayfarer is being manipulated often enough. That wouldn't be any different with missions. Areas and/or agents would be open to boycotts.

    New portals aren't a thing the game or players rely on. Missions are. They need to be reviewed by impartial people.

  • DrHydrosaurDrHydrosaur ✭✭✭✭

    I ran smack into this unwritten rule a few years ago when I tried to get some Periodic Table missions (my first mission creation attempt) at my local University approved. Took a long time to realize why Calcium and Aluminum got through but not Boron and Uranium.

    Personally, I wish they’d just block the public display of missions for agents who exploit missions this way.

    But failing that, just require a mission reviewer to write a one sentence explanation of why a mission was turned down.

  • noregarddnoregardd ✭✭✭

    Mission is the oldest code in the game i heard, there is so many unwritten things about it and make the newbie in mission submission get bored with absurd template rejection emails. I believe more detailed rejection reason will improve the situation

  • MoogModularMoogModular ✭✭✭✭✭

    I legit don't see it any worse than how the submission queue is right now for missions.

  • ChamyraChamyra ✭✭✭

    You don't see the difference between "months up to half a year" and "5-10 days", as it is right now?

  • ZeroHecksGivenZeroHecksGiven ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nothing about missions really makes any sense. What rules apply for one mission or banner, doesn't apply for others. Some are enforced more than others, some seemingly random.

    I've been trying to get this banner approved for over a month now. I believe I've narrowed it down to the fact that if the first few missions in the banner use a certain set of portals, other missions related to it can't reuse them. This was confirmed to me from support this morning. Except, we're often told that missions are all reviewed on their own accord and as single things. So then why would it matter if mission 1 uses six portals and then mission 12 shares a couple of those same portals? It shouldn't, but I've been unsuccessful in making a banner work at a large park in our city.

    But then you say, well, figure it out. Except, I used the images provided by @NianticThia for the upcoming kythera anomaly and had ZERO issues having 18 missions approved, of which several share portals from other missions. So it's definitely a pick and choose thing with these reviewers. Create a set of missions at a park that has no missions and get shot down, create a set of missions in a downtown area that probably already has 40 other missions, no problem.

  • MoogModularMoogModular ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.

    The difference in quality of Niantic reviewing these versus other users is about the same.

  • edited April 2022

    I have a portal submission from 2019-08-25 that's just gone into Niantic Voting, because it never got reviewed by Wayfarers. I also have 4 sitting in "In Voting" and one "In Queue" from 2019-12-28. Another from 2020-03-15.

  • ChamyraChamyra ✭✭✭

    Exactly. Same here in Germany. It takes for ages to get new waypoints reviewed if you are in the wrong area or just got unlucky. Therefore wayfarer is no alternative for missions in my opinion.

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