An addtion to the scanner that would be useful
When it comes to portal/game location nominations, the location has to be a certain amount of feet away from existing locations.
But nothing in the location submission nomination screens tell you that you'e too close. And from all the nominations I wade through every time I'm in wayfarer, apparently people either don't look or don't care.
It would be real nice if, after you select the gps location for the new nomination and it's too close to an existing location, if the which ever game you were submitting from refused to allow you to submit the nomination when you tried and instead told you "sorry, but the location you have selected is too close to an existing (portal/pokestop depending on game).
Once you adjusted the location so it wasn't too close, then the restriction would stop and you could access the submit button.
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It sounds like you suggest that the scanner directly advises the players to manipulate the candidate's location in order to improve its chances of acceptance, basically cheating the in-game wayspot criteria that Niantic put in place for a reason.
Why would we want that?
Even if you have some innocent use cases in mind, the above is what would definitely happen.
Although I admit this would be useful if used for the good, i agree with @svborn that it would help people to abuse the distance between wayspots easily and get the most portals from a place, just like THIS case I reported in the wayfarer forum. Doing this took these people a lot of time of moving the 1st portal in order to get the 2nd duplicate one to show up in game. This tool u are suggesting would've helped them to do this faster as they would've known where to put it to show up the moment it got accepted.
What I'd suggest is that when submitting a nomination, it'd be useful to have the same map that shows the wayspots around you when submitting a pokestop on PoGO.
I thought the 20 meter rule was effectively removed now with submissions going through Wayfarer.
I forget which update but Pokémon Go now shows wayspots from Ingress when submitting a nomination.
To ensure that your new nomination is more than 20 m from existing portals, just look at each neighboring portal, and check that it is more than 20 m away from your position.
the too close rule has been removed.
For pokemon go and cell distribution maybe ask on wayfarer forum ?
20m rule remains in Ingress, not for PoGo, which only cares about the s2 cells.
So you can have Wayspots closer than 20m in PoGo, but not in Ingress.
Portals can now be 1m or less away from another Portal.
At some point Soon™️, you will be able to see duplicates/existing POI on the Nominations map, even if they don’t exist in Ingress.
The only thing this matters for is PokéStops in Pokémon GO, and though I play that game, I’m not gonna be upset if something I nominate doesn’t show up on it. I’m nominating something because I think it’s a point of interest and meets criteria. Not because I want to spin a thing for more Potions.
This may also be better discussion for the Wayfarer forums too.
you create create portal 1m from each other since december (at least)
I'm not sure what it is in POGO, but in Ingress, the poi's are growing out of other ones on a daily basis I see new ones that look like a flower bunch. POGO is definitely taking advantage of it (based on no names on the images for the new poi, the horrible misspellings, and the horribly long names (oddly, usually directions). If you do wayfarer, there is a horrible amount of poi edits with the "Please choose the pin on the right to reveal a hidden wayspot" in the system. I saw at least 10 of those last week, all in the same area.
And yes, I reported each and every one of them.
Is this what u mean with that rule being removed?
Are u telling me that now it'll be possible to have more than 1 pokestop per cell? Does this also count for the pokestops needed to create new gyms? Or does just 1 per cell count to for the appearance of new gyms?
PoGo uses S2 cells as well but it's a lower z level (higher zoom level)
The current "rules" look like this, afaik:
A NEW wayspot doesn't seem to have any distance restrictions in ingress or PoGo currently.
A NEW wayspot in PoGo can only go in an empty cell, but it can be closer than 20m.
A NEW wayspot in Ingress can be closer than 20m, no cell restrictions I know of.
That being said, an EXISTING pokestop moved into a cell that already has a pokestop will now have two pokestops. In your screenshot, that's likely how those happened. We have several like that for art pieces that have moved around town. I don't game the system enough to know the complexities of stop/gym counts, especially if stops are moved into cells.
Interesting, this Reddit thread also seems to suggest the 20m rule is gone :O
One Pokestop per Level 17 S2 cell, if there are multiple in a cell then it's most likely been moved into the same cell prior to Niantic's adjustment of only one Pokestop/Gym per cell.
No, the 20m rule is gone from ingress just now, I had a portal appear in game last night that got accepted 2 days ago, its well within 20m of another portal, I originally submitted it to get a pokestop, but as it also appeared I ingress as well, ad is the 3rd time this has happened for me, I can say with some surety that the 20m rule is gone for now (I have one more portal in voting that won't become a stop, but is within 20m of 2 other portals, I want to make 100% sure)
How long have they been like that? Because the s2 cell rule is still I effect. The I ly time it didn't work was up till early last year editing a stop ignored the s2 rules, so you could have as many stops in as possible if they were edited in, it lead to a looooooooot of abuse
If it's gone then which one would apply for it? Cause I submitted a wayspot back in october, it got accepted but it got misplaced and it fell inside the 20m range of another wayspot there and still hasn't shown in game.
When was it accepted? I believe the 20m rule starred being ignored about November time? I can find out roughly when as I noticed it with a portal early on.
Went and verified, the first time it ignored the 20m rule was December, 6th to be exact. Since then I've seen it ignore another 2. All of these were able to go into pogo. I'm testing on a portal that won't make it Into pogo to be 100% sure