kicking someone out of a group?
JenTil
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Is it possible to remove someone from a chat group, possibly just temporarily? I can see both the benefits and not-so-good reasons for having this ability.
It looks like you can "ban" people, but that might be more severe than what I am thinking of. Back in the good old IRC days, a moderator (normally one of a group of mods) for a "group" could ban someone temporarily for 10 minutes/a day/etc. That was sometimes useful when someone was "drunk chatting" or just being obnoxious but not so bad that they should be kicked completely from the community.
Similarly, is there a way to share moderation of a group/event (assuming that there is some sort of removal opportunity available)?
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The group owner can assign admins. Moderation options are limited though.
@JenTil Could you walk me through temporary bans vs muting the person in the group?
I feel like there are so many good questions around moderation and privacy settings, especially with people coming from so many different chat services. I'm excited for the potential for this to feature all of the best parts of people's favorite aspects from all of them.
I'm looking forward to hearing input from @JenTil on things like this! She's so knowledgeable from being an og gamer and modding across all different kinds of platforms outside of the community she runs for ingress locally.
@NianticZenas when you ask that way, I would lay out levels of muting or banning something like this:
* Muting someone would allow them to remain in the group and see the conversations but they wouldn't be able to contribute to it (i.e. a timeout and go sit in the corner). An indication of this status as muted would be helpful (i.e. their user name turns red instead of the default grey).
* Temp ban (of whatever duration) would kick them out of the group for a while, but they would get an automatic invite back after their suspension was served
* Perma ban - they get kicked out with some sort of messaging from the group mods and they can't get back in unless invited back by the mods/admin
Of course, who gets to decide what actions are appropriate and when such mutes/bans should be applied can be fraught with peril. Any mods/admins should be listed within the profile of the group with ability to DM them either as individuals or to the group as a whole.
Also of concern are toxic groups with either overly authoritarian mods or lack of mods. From my experiences as a mod across different games and platforms, it makes a big difference in how the community (group) interacts based on the moderation style that is employed. It's sort of an ugly balancing act that isn't always negotiated properly. Obviously starting a new group with different admis/mods is always an option if a majority feels oppressed (or whatever) but that can also lead to a fractured community which is sort of contrary to what a chat feature is supposed to encourage, in my opinion.
Currently, I think one of the minor confusions that our group talked about is whether or not any type of kick/ban from a group in the chat would result in actions from Niantic across the various games (i.e. would you get a penalty/warning that prevents you from playing Ingress if you get kicked/banned from an in-game chat). That should be clarified at some point.
I tried with a group member yesterday. Banned him from a closed group. He got a notification that he was banned. After in banned, he out from the group automatically. But he can return using the same code again. Lesson learn is don't unbanned.;)