The main problem of the game

GreenVamGreenVam ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 2021 in General


Dear administration, I do not advertise any games. I just want to show what ingress could be. A full-fledged battlefield where agents would show their intelligence and cohesion.

Check out this trailer. Feel the atmosphere of what is happening. Battle! Yes! Great battle of wits, invested resources and forces!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPlMOPXQwM

How do you like that? Normal, interesting, varied!

It's just wonderful! the atmosphere of a real battle for land than the ingress game was in its early years. 


Earlier, at the beginning of gaming times, we ourselves created the fate of the game, raising the atmosphere of the struggle for the fate of humanity. New reports from Suzanne were constantly coming from the fronts. New recruits were recruited in an atmosphere of the strictest secrecy. An underground network of agents was being built operating in the most remote places ...


From a battlefield, Ingress has turned into a dull spectacle, watered down by blunt and unplotted minigames. The threat of exogenous invasion has passed, and the plot itself has reached a dead end. As one veteran enlightenment agent told me, THE GAME HAS LOST THE SPIRIT OF Rivalry.

Now imagine for a second that ingress has turned into a game of mechanics which is discussed by hundreds or even thousands of video bloggers. What mods are best suited for a specific agent archetype? How to properly modify the drone for specific needs? How to modify the portal correctly, and what type of portal is it better to create? What is the best way to protect your area from the invasion of enemy agents?

This is what the game lacks, fighting fuse! Fighting spirit! An atmosphere of mystery and secrecy! Feelings of the struggle for the fate of the world! This is what drove agents at all times!

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  • TheKingEngineTheKingEngine ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2021

    What is the best way to protect your area from the invasion of enemy agents?

    You may need antiaircraft missiles and anti-stealth shields to compete with spoofers, which would not be provided by the Ingress game. Thus I hope you dream would come true (though I didn't get you quite well) but I don't think so.

    Talking about PvP/Battlefield games, they have cutting edge anti-cheating technologies and they did impose severe punishment on cheaters including permanent device/ALL accounts ban even if it's a famous Youtuber. For Ingress?

    https://community.ingress.com/en/discussion/comment/136784/#Comment_136784


  • GreenVamGreenVam ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's about the atmosphere of the game. Look, there is a series like Babylon 5, which is a benchmark science fiction series that depicts a whole world. There is a world of star wars, a world of warcraft, a world of doom. Each has its own atmosphere. each has a battle, each has its own unique charm and style. And the main thing is integrity.


    The plot is clear and has a clear chronology, the goals of the characters are often clear. And we have? Scraps of the plot, pieces of technologies mentioned in the plot, pieces of motivational assumptions ... The plot is loosely connected with the scanner, events are not tied to the plot. Certain items such as beacons with a piece of bread or a toast-shaped avatar with a piece of butter suggest that flying unicorns may appear soon ...

  • TheKingEngineTheKingEngine ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2021

    I agree. Nobody in my area really cares about the storyline of Ingress game now, even though they does several years ago. But that takes a lot of money to do retrofit, which is the most critical thing for Ingress project team. Your Disagree on my comment does not change that. Good luck

  • GreenVamGreenVam ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is how it was intended. and what do we have in the end ???

  • milofargmilofarg ✭✭✭

    Hopefully the story will be rebooted when the live events resume (anomalies, Camp Navarro and so on) to create a narrative context for them. Now we're just waiting out the pandemic.

  • mortuusmortuus ✭✭✭✭✭

    That can take years before things even go back to normal....

  • VenomousToadVenomousToad ✭✭✭✭✭

    Imagine seeing a trailer for an ar game that's exciting and full of mystery and intrigue and then play Ingress. It's never going to be that game. It's the players that made the game fun. Without players it's dull. And that's where we are at now. There's never any new players signing up anymore and the old players are leaving. That's the entire problem.

  • mortuusmortuus ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2021

    problem is also the google playstore rating currently at 3,4 that dont help much and unless it reaches 4.0 it wont be visible in recommended games sadly to reach a wider audience.

  • RostwoldRostwold ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've reduced my score to 1.0 because they are totally blanking paying customers who have not had their subscription benefits this month.

  • GreenVamGreenVam ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2021

    Why raise their rating? For what merits? There is no plot, there is no action, there are no new game mechanics except for the unfinished drone and the capsule that makes a copy of the long-boring items either. Graphics? Removed the pulse, added textures in the shape of the 90s. Old content that is no longer relevant after the departure of exogenous creatures has not been removed from the game. What we have? Pokémon evolve. Harry Potter too. And we have? And we have a lot of rubbish consisting of outdated gaming solutions and concepts that have not been brought to the final result, no matter which side you look at.


    Do you know what? The company just doesn't give a damn about the opinions of the players, I doubt that anyone will read this post or even answer it.


    Forum admins and company representatives do not care what agents really require. We have no connection with them. Even with Andrew there was a connection, and now ... @NianticBrian сan you hear us ???


    For example, a topic that has a lot of likes, etc. Has anyone from the company reacted to it? Not. Stupid events, not tied to the plot of the game, continue to come out. New items also enter to the game without being tied to the plot. A subscription that came out recently, it is generally torn off from the storyline, what it is and where it is not clear.

    https://community.ingress.com/en/discussion/13662/the-plot-let-everyone-speak-about-it#latest

  • With each update more basic game mechanics are broken. A higher rating is not deserved solely on that basis alone, without going into all the other long standing issues with this game. Little QC goes a long way.

  • SSSputnikSSSputnik ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really good points Konntower.

  • MoogModularMoogModular ✭✭✭✭✭

    The primary communications for the game seem to revolve around Slack/Telegram, which certainly work, however gamers today are used to using Discord for their primary means of communication. There's a generational gap between OG Ingress and the realities of gaming today.

    It's interesting to say that but a lot of communication was done outside of the app since the start. Back then, Hangouts was installed on android devices so I've had people reach out to me through Hangouts back when it was called "G+ Hangouts".

    I've used Hangouts, Telegram, Slack, Zello, GroupMe, Glympse, Zoom, and Discord for various means of Ingress community and operations. There is definitely no disconnect with communication here - it's just an established means were made in the past and it stuck. Every community is different on preferred methods.

  • edited April 2021

    I know multiple Ingress communities on Discord, including ones run by people who started playing in 2012, and just keep evolving the community.

    Hangouts -> Slack -> Discord so far. I'm sure when the next evolution of chat platforms comes out, they'll move there too.

    Talking about "OG" like some monolithic organisation is as bad as complaining that new players don't understand how things work.

  • kiloecholimakiloecholima ✭✭✭✭✭

    It can be really difficult to move an entire community from one chat platform to another, especially when there isn't a lot of agreement on the best platform to use. I've never had an issue being on every platform but some people really have hangups about certain ones. We lost some people when we moved to Slack a few years ago despite our best efforts to get everybody to move over; had to keep some old channels open to not lose communication. I couldn't imagine trying to move again.

  • MoogModularMoogModular ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would see slack as the easiest to move. Slack holds your messages hostage until you pay. Just makes it simple to move from it.

  • kiloecholimakiloecholima ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's more of a herding cats headache. It's a large community with hundreds of members.

  • Many communities just accept that 10,000 post limit, even if it only gives them a week of history. It only becomes a problem in large loud communities, which the game has been slowly killing off.

    Slack serves it's purpose. People saying that "Anyone not on Discord is old and out of touch" is somewhat absurd since most global communication seems to be on Telegram these days, and while many communities are on Discord locally, even things like IFS are on Slack still. Just because there's something new or the existing platforms have limitations doesn't mean it's easy to move hundreds of people to it.

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