Then they should do the full event both times, allowing us to achieve gold in this one, and who couldn't do it now would be able to keep going from where stoped.
Well, i can understand this. But, you know, ingress community have a lot really hardcore players, who can drive 500+ miles for only 1 portal and back, who travel 2k km at shard battle in 2017, who can easely go to another country just for game, you know?
I`m not the best agent in this world, but there`s a lot agents like me. And we REALLY WANT a normal challenges, that can be done by small percentage of players
For me now, for example, ingress is more like a routine, and i want to compete, at first, with myself (and others like me, of course)
As you can see, there`s a few things i need to do - only take that uniques, force myself to do "**** work" (no offense to OPR (sorry, wayfarer) fans, I just don't like medals that are not obtained through direct interaction with the scanner).
SO i, and a lot other agents, want the REAL challenge, not this "4 capsules" for kids
Just for example, previous events, my stat (i know, that there were a lot who was better):
Myriad hacks, 750 for gold? What i need to do with my 3.2k?
Didact fields, 800 you say? What about exo5? Ah, nvm, i still get 3.5k
Umbra, builder, 1400? I know agents, who got 10+k in first few days
Please, hear us. You already lost a lot hardcore players, with all your moves, trying to make "ingress is for casuals", ap runners with apex, and a lot more with "no competetions between factions" events.
@NIA Why not just implement an option in the prime settings where you can choose whether you want to participate in this badge collection or not?
I would have loved to build some Jarvis with my Kinetic Capsule, but unfortunately I can hardly do that now because otherwise I will forcibly receive this badge :-/
You can still get up to 4 Jarvis without getting the badge. Complete 3 Jarvis programs within the event frame and start the 4th one shorty before the event ends, then finish it once the badge goes out. Not optimal, I know, but 4 are better then none.
But without a "forced" badge, I would easily have constructed more than 20+ objects during the event.
Now I am "forced" to stop after 3 items. An option in the settings whether you want to participate or not (for all future badges/events) would be so nice and the best option for all players.
I am glad to hear that there will be a possibility of getting the silver and gold medals at a later time, because I have the rest of the Nemesis challenge gold medals.
Me alegra ver que habrá posibilidad más adelante de obtener las medallas de plata y oro, ya que el resto de medallas de los retos de Nemesis las tengo en oro.
Mixed feelings tbh. Happy about the (only bronze) medal for walking 4 sbul capsules, very happy about the "later" for agents who can't go out now (and the possibility to add the extra tiers at that stage for all agents). But i have my doubts about the 40 resonators to get 8 and the jarvis thing.
can we rather give 50 L8 (or L7) XMP, because this is only item that does not convert common/rare items ->> very rare, but first that uses Very rare+ extra steps --> very rare
Othervise it is simpler to exchange ada for jarvis with other faction players I trust
I would think that the true Optima event with the lore and badges later on will deal with this. Maybe they could add in some lore that this is Optima’s initial attempt?
Same. I literally only have 1 ada, and I have no wish to use it and extra to get a jarvis, of which I also only have 1. There is no logic behind this other than "some older or less active but still farming players will have loads of viruses, so let's not have them get more".
Understandable, but the question was directly about the XM math. In context of late night portal recharge sessions, stuff like reload are irrelevant to me.
Very informative, thank you. I was not sure about the hypercube capacity, and since I mostly get L6+ powercubes was questioning the profitability of that program. Since then I found a good table where the values of hypercube capacity are written down and seems like at my access level, doing the program with L4-6 is net positive.
I'm confused by your "ask." You say you want something only a small percentage of players can actually do, but also admit losing a bunch of players already. Why would it make any sense to offer events only a few can complete? Talk about alienating a ton of players that may already be on the fence about playing to begin with.
I get not wanting to water down the challenges, but there is absolutely a line the Ingress team has to walk and I can't see how offering something to a small percentage of the players, would ever be a good thing, especially during a pandemic. If anything, maybe the Ingress team can come up with a way to show an event medal was doubled, like adding recursion wings to existing medals.
I'd definitely like to know if participating in the event now would destroy my opportunity to get a possible gold badge later on - if it emerges. An official statement would be nice @NianticBrian 🙂
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Then they should do the full event both times, allowing us to achieve gold in this one, and who couldn't do it now would be able to keep going from where stoped.
That's how the EOS was supposed to be.
Excellent! Good way to incentivize players and spice up the game!
They will be added but this is still a test
Well, i can understand this. But, you know, ingress community have a lot really hardcore players, who can drive 500+ miles for only 1 portal and back, who travel 2k km at shard battle in 2017, who can easely go to another country just for game, you know?
I`m not the best agent in this world, but there`s a lot agents like me. And we REALLY WANT a normal challenges, that can be done by small percentage of players
For me now, for example, ingress is more like a routine, and i want to compete, at first, with myself (and others like me, of course)
As you can see, there`s a few things i need to do - only take that uniques, force myself to do "**** work" (no offense to OPR (sorry, wayfarer) fans, I just don't like medals that are not obtained through direct interaction with the scanner).
SO i, and a lot other agents, want the REAL challenge, not this "4 capsules" for kids
Just for example, previous events, my stat (i know, that there were a lot who was better):
Myriad hacks, 750 for gold? What i need to do with my 3.2k?
Didact fields, 800 you say? What about exo5? Ah, nvm, i still get 3.5k
Umbra, builder, 1400? I know agents, who got 10+k in first few days
Please, hear us. You already lost a lot hardcore players, with all your moves, trying to make "ingress is for casuals", ap runners with apex, and a lot more with "no competetions between factions" events.
Stop that, please, and give to us something new
Sounds good. Think I’ll do 4 2km programs firstly to get the badge and then do some of the new ones.
@NIA Why not just implement an option in the prime settings where you can choose whether you want to participate in this badge collection or not?
I would have loved to build some Jarvis with my Kinetic Capsule, but unfortunately I can hardly do that now because otherwise I will forcibly receive this badge :-/
You can still get up to 4 Jarvis without getting the badge. Complete 3 Jarvis programs within the event frame and start the 4th one shorty before the event ends, then finish it once the badge goes out. Not optimal, I know, but 4 are better then none.
And also any kinetic capsule you do more than the 4 required for the medal will that be tracked also?
Hi, I have some doubts:
if I complete a Kinetic program during the event but i started it before, does it count on the 4 completed for the event?
If I reach the km for the Kinetic program before the event but I redeem the VR created during the event, does it count for the event?
Yes - that's the math behind it :-)
But without a "forced" badge, I would easily have constructed more than 20+ objects during the event.
Now I am "forced" to stop after 3 items. An option in the settings whether you want to participate or not (for all future badges/events) would be so nice and the best option for all players.
Translated the announcement into German here:
@NianticPooja I was told to ping you once I've posted it, so ping~
IMO, it should be like a "mission", a button like "i want to participiate in this event"
I am glad to hear that there will be a possibility of getting the silver and gold medals at a later time, because I have the rest of the Nemesis challenge gold medals.
Me alegra ver que habrá posibilidad más adelante de obtener las medallas de plata y oro, ya que el resto de medallas de los retos de Nemesis las tengo en oro.
Good idea.
Hmm, opt-medals - yeah that could work...
Mixed feelings tbh. Happy about the (only bronze) medal for walking 4 sbul capsules, very happy about the "later" for agents who can't go out now (and the possibility to add the extra tiers at that stage for all agents). But i have my doubts about the 40 resonators to get 8 and the jarvis thing.
I really appreciate how you managed this challenge by giving to all Agents the same opportunity to join, good work Niantic!
1 ADA for 1 Jarvis?
can we rather give 50 L8 (or L7) XMP, because this is only item that does not convert common/rare items ->> very rare, but first that uses Very rare+ extra steps --> very rare
Othervise it is simpler to exchange ada for jarvis with other faction players I trust
Did I miss what we actually have to do to prevent Optima from entering the portal network? Is there a total number of kcaps that we need to complete?
Feels like someone forgot about those details. Or maybe I just outright missed it? Anyone? @NianticBrian?
I would think that the true Optima event with the lore and badges later on will deal with this. Maybe they could add in some lore that this is Optima’s initial attempt?
I have to say that ADA being part of the recipe for jarvis has made me less enthusiastic about crafting jarvis.
Same. I literally only have 1 ada, and I have no wish to use it and extra to get a jarvis, of which I also only have 1. There is no logic behind this other than "some older or less active but still farming players will have loads of viruses, so let's not have them get more".
there hasn't been challenges since via lux odyssey and magnus buidler
It's just task since, so everybody can win yeayyy
Understandable, but the question was directly about the XM math. In context of late night portal recharge sessions, stuff like reload are irrelevant to me.
Very informative, thank you. I was not sure about the hypercube capacity, and since I mostly get L6+ powercubes was questioning the profitability of that program. Since then I found a good table where the values of hypercube capacity are written down and seems like at my access level, doing the program with L4-6 is net positive.
I'm confused by your "ask." You say you want something only a small percentage of players can actually do, but also admit losing a bunch of players already. Why would it make any sense to offer events only a few can complete? Talk about alienating a ton of players that may already be on the fence about playing to begin with.
I get not wanting to water down the challenges, but there is absolutely a line the Ingress team has to walk and I can't see how offering something to a small percentage of the players, would ever be a good thing, especially during a pandemic. If anything, maybe the Ingress team can come up with a way to show an event medal was doubled, like adding recursion wings to existing medals.
Will there be different colours, for how many programs u finish?
No, not during the first event, at least. When the second event is held in the future, more tiers might happen.
I'd definitely like to know if participating in the event now would destroy my opportunity to get a possible gold badge later on - if it emerges. An official statement would be nice @NianticBrian 🙂