Auto remove lots of playgrounds!
Lots of faild playgrounds now in Sweden dont follow criteria. No meating place,park, camping site and bathing.
Lots of playgrounds now on apartment location and 100% No meetingplace and dont follow criteria.
Please take a look and use auto remove. I know Niantic use it for roundabout portals. @NianticAkshay
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I will try to clarify what i think the original poster is talking about. In Sweden we have lots and lots of apartment houses, like everywhere else i guess. The grounds around these houses are in many cases from a legal perspective not different from the residential grounds around a villa, bungalow or other single family house. So the people living in the apartment house can fence off the grounds, force people not living there to leave and so on.
On these apartment house grounds there are often a small playground/playarea for children living in the house. They are generally pretty small, say a sandbox, a swing, or a slide. And these are all over any city.
The OPR guidelines for playgrounds say "ACCEPT if the candidate is in a park or community gathering place; falls under the criteria of public spaces that encourage walk and exercise."
Now the playgrounds referred to here are not in public spaces, and not in park, but on residential grounds. So the OPR guidelines seem to imply they should not be accepted.
But they are in some cases accepted, in other cases they are not.
So a clarification from NIA about this type of playground is badly needed, as the guidelines are not clear in many Swedish OPR operators eyes.
I thought that Private Residential Property is specifcally about one-family home. Even in AMA was clarification about it. Portals on grounds that belong to fenced buildings with a lot of families living there are OK. You just have to be smart to go there (legally). Make new friend there, change job - postman, pizza delivery etc. Both factions has that kind of portals and not all agents must have access to portal for it to be legit.
And it is gathering place, in my country that fenced areas are often very crowded - kids, parents on nearby benches, people reading books and PoGo players.
By "apartment houses" do you mean many homes in one building? It was confirmed on the last AMA on Google+ that the private residential property rule only applies to single residential homes, and not a multiple residence property such as apartments. A playground (or anything else that otherwise meets criteria) in the grounds of apartments, even if not accessible to the outside public, can be accepted - again I think this was covered on an earlier AMA. A portal doesn't have to be accessible to all people at all times.
Whether a single sandbox or slide can be classed as a playground may be debatable, but if OPR reviewers are approving them then from my understanding of this situation and the guidelines it sounds like there's no grounds for removal. Do correct me though if I've misunderstood what is meant by apartment houses though, do you have a screenshot of such portals perhaps?
Yes! Niantic must answare here about critera for playgrounds. @NianticAkshay
You are both correct in that a portal being on private grounds when there are multi apartment houses are ok according to nia guidelines. That is all fine and well. The question boils down to the specific wording of the description of playgrounds in the opr guide and the critera for acceptance.
The guidelines state that the following for playgrounds "ACCEPT if the candidate is in a park or community gathering place; falls under the criteria of public spaces that encourage walk and exercise."
So the question is, do these private small residential playgrounds fall under the critera "public spaces that encourage walk and excercise ?" when they are not public?
And the second question is, how large must something be to be called a playground ?
There is no consensus in the local OPR community about this, so therefore a clarrifaction is warranted.
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A previous AMA stated that playgrounds attached to restaurants and pubs are valid portals, so I don't see why playgrounds in gated communities shouldn't be.
So long as a playground is not located on private residential property, a school, or child care center, it is perfectly valid. Therefore playgrounds at an apartment building or complex, gated community, and even at restaurants are valid. (The latter was confirmed in a previous AMA)
Now your photo gets to what is considered a playground. Technically, any area set aside for children to excursive through play is a playground. Play apparatuses are not required, but good luck getting a field through OPR without some form of play apparatuses. But while a single play apparatuses does technically constitute a playground, most reviewers are going to want more or a structure with multiple apparatuses attached.
If those playground portals are accessible only to the residents of that particular appartment community, I wouldn't bother reporting them, because I think those are valid portals. The same rule applies to portals on closed company grounds, and I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't be the same for any other communal area.
I've seen the photo, and it's difficult to call them 'playgrounds' - I usually reject single playthings like that, that are passed as 'playgrounds' but the truth is: the world's full of those portals.