Super obvious spoofing, No actions after report
Hello,
First of all, i sent a ticket with all the information. You can just look at the screenshots and thats enough to realise that this is obvious spoofer. Ticket ID: #10900868 . I Got answer from "Lambert" that they reviewed my case, but the account is still not banned.
Yesterday, after midnight, agent @shbanaka appeared on big anchor that was holding few million MU in Bulgaria.
This is agent lvl7 that we already suspected that he is spoofing since he have resonators in Serbia (https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=43.006006,22.875504&z=12&pll=43.016068,22.779) with borders closed between the two countries and he destroyed some portals in inaccessible warehouse after work time.
His first action was from here:
to here:
in 12 minutes:
12:59AM
shbanaka linked Паметник за 23.09.1923 г. (1024, 3474 Govezhda, Bulgaria) to Кметство Говежда (1024 10, 3474 Govezhda, Bulgaria)1:11AM
shbanaka captured Сърп и Чук - 1923 (81, 3517 Bokilovtsi, Bulgaria)
By map (also been on that route) you need 32 minutes
BUT the most spoofed action he did is that he climbed a mountain peak (also big anchor) in 20 minutes after that action.
1:11AM shbanaka linked Сърп и Чук - 1923 (81, 3517 Bokilovtsi, Bulgaria) to Паметник за 23.09.1923 г. (1024, 3474 Govezhda, Bulgaria)
https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=43.31283,23.29797&z=11&pll=43.277229,23.173242
1:35AM shbanaka destroyed a Resonator on Kom Peak. Vazov Stone (812, 3520 Barzia, Bulgaria)
https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=43.167267,23.219692&z=11&pll=43.173778,23.052495
You need around 35 minutes to reach the place from where you start to hike and then you need around 1:15h. - 1:30h. to reach the peak if its day time and if you are in good shape. Do not forget that this is in the middle of the night and there is already snow in the mountains. Been there many times also.
After that he went down from the mountain to a far away
1:35AM
shbanaka destroyed the Link Kom Peak. Vazov Stone (812, 3520 Barzia, Bulgaria) to Поща Круша 2213 (813 73, 2213 Krusha, Bulgaria)
2:00AM
shbanaka captured Малката чешмичка (15 13, 3240 Borovan, Bulgaria)
And this is again, without the time that you go down from the mountain. Lets say that you need 1 hour get down and they start driving to this city ...
so all this kept going and going, ruining a the game for all the people that are trying to keep it green.
Almost EVERY TIME i send a report to NIA, it goes like this ... is it a trusted source, do i have to look for vanguard or do i have to post it here or reddit? Not to even mention why NIA do not detect the spoofers automatically. Is there any way for "fast reporting" that i dont know? Sometimes spoofers are just going rampage and they need to be stop immediately.
Hope this post will have some effect.
Thank you in advance!
Comments
There is a wave of complaints recently regarding the lack of action against spoofers, apparently even the obvious ones. What you allow is what will continue, letting them unpunished will only create more spoofers and make more legit players leave.
As you asked about ""fast reporting"...have a try of the Trusted Reporter Program.
If that doesn't work for your case :( ..pick another game to play 😂
In my experience bans including spoofing on mountains were super fast. Urban spoofers never get banned.
Just..not good.
This will all lead to a buch of 'if you can't beat them, join them' people, then the initial spoofers will leave because of the 'even' playing field, then the remaining ones still bother legit players. This is not sustainable for Ingress, as we de not have the required flow permitting the cycle to continue. Unfortunately Niantic is messing up simple offers recently, how able do you think they are of taking care of spoofers (ones that aren't obvious)?
I did the similar issue but with tresspassing after an area closed. I used google maps and walking option to get times for the agent that was wandering around at night past closing time. Last year his girlfriend was caught and temporary ban. Also she was FS rep where FS started and couldn't play a few days.
But since this is a duck hunting area over the winter.
And niantics excuses about working with law enforcement has ethical issues. I can get the GIS staff in my state to simply place boundary layers for parks and wildife refuges and put any closures daily or seasonally limitations. And it is available on google maps. Niantic states that they MAY work with law enforcement.
Niantic knows where agents are at when they spoof. They simply need to do an ethical verification of the agents activities.
And Lambert should be fired.
You are right. Also yourownlesiness and stalkercloak should suport your comment
How's your report going via Trusted Reporter channel? Please remember it must be filed within 7 days since the spoofing.
I'd say it would likely work as your incase involves a mountain, just go for it. Too many story-tellers than advice givers here.
We sent a TR request and we found a Vanguard who helped us. The bot is now banned, but we are trying to at least restore the state of the portals. Not sure which one helped (still no answer from the TR bot after the report), but it did the job.
Thank you all for the help.
It's TR that works. If you have selected "Allow a Vanguard to contact you to restore the portal" option when filing the report, someone (not the TR bot) would do via Telegram sometime later.
If this blatant cheating requires the use of TR because the Support ticket was closed, it's pretty much confirmed that Support is useless.
Thank you for provinging maps and typical hike times. Hopefully NIA will look into this further.
Lambert should be fired LOL
You seem to be trolling the forum to spam your video link. Go find something else to do.
I wonder how long for some spoofer to become Vanguard :D
Then, callback for the "trolls". It's been YEARS now.
Trusted Report doesn’t always work. I reported a player who travelled to Switzerland and back to India in a week without mandatory quarantine in both countries(Obviously flight availability is another matter). With proof of activity, but still not banned. That profile went to Switzerland level 3, came back level 7 to attack an anchor where there are no agents active.
Again and again. This is always how it goes. Someone makes a big field with hard / impossible portals in the corners and charge them forever. Other players get bored and one of them buys a portal destruction service from ebay. Then the field builder will come here to complain. This has definitely been going on for years and no one realizes that the fault is in the game mechanics that forces you to spoof or pay some spoofer that you can play.
dont spoof, go climb the mountain, or what ever is required to reach said 'hard' portals,
I just had a mass spoof in several mountainous and forest portals. All of which are very low signal requiring signal gear. Despite it being a very obvious spoof Niantic has taken no action whatsoever. I've even produce video stills from a web cam at one of the portals when it was spoofed and Niantic ignored the ticket.
Did you fill in a Fast Track ticket? (Now that the method used in this OP is no longer the method).
I filled out several as multiple accounts were involved in the spoof. Not a single account banned nor portal restore. I even have a vanguard looking into it but unfortunately she hasn't had much luck either.
Lambert seems to be very tough to convince...
Anyone ever got a response from someone else post Lambert? The TR gave instant feedback, the current fast track is a bit shunted away from users.
I had an instant response when asking the TR for help, but I was told unless it involved a rural set of portals with obvious time discrepancies, they wouldn't be able to help.
How did you get a TR involved? Was this pre fast track system?
It was whatever system they did through Telegram. Maybe 2-3 months ago?
TR bots are no longer working. All TRs mentioned should be pre-fast track
exactly, now Lambert only responds