[Resolved] Submissions Subtracting Two Nominations

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  • Cini4321Cini4321 ✭✭
    edited March 2020

    @NianticCasey : Another problem is updating where we are currently located. I used to live in CA, but am not in NJ. There is an option to permanently change my primary location one time, but I do plan to move again, so this isn't a great option for me. I've selected my current area as a secondary location (which can be changed once per year), but don't get many reviews here, about 90% are still in CA.

    It would also be great if the system rewarded reviews by allowing for new submissions instead of upgrades. If the players aren't reviewing at all, then they don't get any new submissions.

    And lastly, it would be great to know how many of our reviews are still "in review." I can review 100 submissions and my upgrade crawls up 2%. OF course there's usually a huge jump the next day, but it would be nice to know how much further it might increase once they have all been decided.

    Oh, last last - seeing what things are not being agreed upon would make us better reviewers. Some type of report showing which reviews we decided poorly on.

  • I can't believe all the people saying allowing more nominations during a viral scare is unwise, given nominating portals is one of the very few things you can do in Ingress from home. What is the logic there?

    I just wish the limit was greater than 25km, given I have over 500 candidates in my database between 25km and 35 km from my home, and far fewer within 25 km.

  • Today's the day! What time though?

  • JSteve0JSteve0 ✭✭✭

    Been thinking a little bit more about this concern about the quality of reviews from temporary bonus locations. What if the Wayfarer team allowed us to get a batch of 20 nominations that have been awaiting review for a long time? The batch would be restricted to nominations in languages we have indicated that we are fluent in. We review the batch and if our agreement percentage is high enough (we stay in great status), they let us request another batch. In order to have access to a bonus batch, you have to have reached the end of the queue for your regular reviews (current play area/home location/bonus location).

  • s3w2s3w2 ✭✭✭
    edited March 2020

    We're going to leave the double nominations in place for those areas that are unaffected.

    @NianticCasey No you have not. You have failed miserably on this. You should be ashamed of putting the urge of getting more Wayspots in for your games. Portugal, where I am right now, have declared a state of emergency with outdoor activities reduced to stricly and absolutely necessary. Other countries have done the same and OTHERS will follow.

    You are inviting people to go outside where EVERYONE is asking to people to stay in. You are a disgrace.



  • calm down, s3w2.

  • Roli112Roli112 ✭✭✭


    Its not up to Niantic to enforce the shelter in place guidelines/mandates if you need/should follow them then do so, if not then make your own judgement. You don't miss out on anything by not nominating, there's no streak to keep or no reward for nominating.

  • s3w2s3w2 ✭✭✭

    Niantic cancelled Pokemon Go events, Ingress and HP:WU events precisely to avoid gatherings and people going out. Wayfarer missed an opportunity to do the same by motivating players to review and reward them. It's just that. Me and others have posted reasonable actions, from our point of view, that could be taken by Wayfarer. @NianticCasey said they wouldn't double nominantions in affected areas.

    It is not up to Niantic to enforce shelter but have done it by reworking PoGo and HP:WU so players and play it from their homes. Wayfarer went on the opposite way.

    On top of this, giving more nominations will just clutter the queues even more. It won't solve a thing.

  • Roli112Roli112 ✭✭✭

    you said it yourself...."to avoid gatherings". Wayfarer requires absolutely 0 gatherings. I also think you misread the "wouldn't double nominations in affected areas", I read it as they aren't going to take it away in a week, but leave it longer.

  • Countries are going into lockdown and people are getting fines for doing so, due to that encouraging people to go out isn’t responsible.

    i also read what Niantic said the same way s3w2 did but I can see now how it can be read the other way.

  • Roli112Roli112 ✭✭✭

    Having nominations available or not shouldn't change anything, Niantic already said they will have them available again when things return to normal. If you can't go out then don't. It's the same thing as having the game playable in unsafe neighborhoods, players need to play at their own risk. Here the only guidance so far is no large gatherings of more than 20 people, the same guidance Niantic falls under, so their decisions are understandable.

  • i will be totally by myself when i add those wayspots on friday. if someone walks by, i might say hello. if people come too close, i will take a step back.

    there is nothing i will touch while making those submissions.

    for myself, this is fine.

    if you are somewhere else in the world, you might consider your safety different.

  • Hi folks,

    I'm happy to let you know that, to make up for any nominations that were "lost" due to the double nomination bug, we've temporarily doubled the upper limit for nominations from 14->28 on Ingress. This will last until March 30.

    There will be a repeat of this increase at another point in the future, still TBD. Thanks!

  • SF88SF88 ✭✭

    @NianticCasey Will there be any reviewing bonuses of any kind please ?

    We are crying out for some big news on reviewing some big update that will declog the system on top of these double nominations.

  • Postpone this compensation immediately!

    This is a completely wrong signal from Niantic in times where we all should stay at home.

    Stay home! Stay healthy!

  • tell that to my boss, RodRedline. i am still at work.

    even if we do get a total lockdown i will be able to go out for a walk and make a submission.

  • Whoab0tWhoab0t ✭✭✭
    edited March 2020

    @NianticCasey Hi Casey, just a quick question related to the end of this event -

    I'm currently somewhere that it is safe to be outdoors (or at least not illegal). You've said that the end of the event is March 30th - will the extra slots disappear on that day, or will they be in effect until they are used (and just not regenerate 13 days later)?

    If they do disappear, what time would they disappear on March 30th?

  • GendgiGendgi ✭✭✭

    I'm sure Casey would be far more willing to engage if you could keep the personal attacks down.

    The decision was likely made well before this pandemic reached these levels, and we all had the chance to go out and take photos well ahead of time and make arrangements as more places are affected. This was an attempt, poorly timed and arguably with bad execution, to make good on nominations many people lost prior and without much notice. Communication about bonus nominations was limited, and I would hardly say anyone is being encouraged to go out. Practice social responsibility and make the decision if you think it is safe and necessary to go out; if not, we have been promised a future chance to make more nominations.

    I am sorry you and your nation are so greatly affected; I fear it will soon catch up, here. Stay safe and don't let the business decisions of this company add to the stress I'm sure you're already under.

  • GendgiGendgi ✭✭✭

    The TL;DL is "Niantic, as usual, continues to prove they do not know how to manage a social augmented reality game and makes poor company choices during an international crisis."

    For what it's worth, @s3w2, I agree with 99% of your post(s) and have been reading and typically making similar statements alongside of you. I, too, am baffled by the excuses @NianticCasey gave us about bonus location changes. The thought that we would "impact the quality of reviews or encourage reviewers to choose a place they're not familiar with" completely contradicts the spirit of Wayfarer and what we do on a daily basis. Those statements made me laugh and add to the general "we know more about how Wayfarer works than the Niantic Wayfarer team, Support, and spokespeople" sentiment that more often than not is proven true.

    You are inviting people to go outside where EVERYONE is asking to people to stay in. You are a disgrace.

    This is where you lose me. Making it personal and calling Casey a disgrace is an unnecessary attack. Your post would have sold me at "Niantic's handling of this is a disgrace."


    I personally consider 3 inexcusable mistakes Niantic Wayfarer team has made (and continue to allow) that not only have hurt individuals but the overall community:

    1) Lack of a quality guide at launch of PoGO reviews; only kind of sort of maybe somewhere saying PoGO players should go out of their way to find lasagna recipes and find flip flop stances from Ingress AMAs;

    2) Upgrade issues from 2019 remaining unresolved, ignored; similar, the overall disparity in review time by region; lack of ever formally encouraging reviews;

    3) Overlooking an opportunity for incentivizing reviews during a time many of us are housebound; failure to have any at all communication to encourage reviews.

    Thank you for your well written reply to my post, @s3w2. I enjoyed the read and hope it reaches the entire intended audience.

  • s3w2s3w2 ✭✭✭
    edited March 2020

    I fully agree with you @Gendgi, your post is totally on point.

    When I wrote those words, I was trying to refer to Niantic/Wayfarer team, in general. I apologise to @NianticCasey if it sounded as personal.

  • I don't think 14 extra nominations would be a big deal, compared with the amount of nominations already stuck in the system for months.

  • GendgiGendgi ✭✭✭

    14×scores of Agents submitting + 7× legions of PoGO Trainers is what adds up.

    It's literally doubling allowable nominations with the same number of reviewers.

    When some regions it already takes a year or longer for nominations to be closed, regardless of reviewer numbers.

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