# 13 Archetypes: Alchemist

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Yes. The metals can be ordered in a logical way. But of course you can probably find many logical orderings according to some criterium, so you just have to try them out until it works.

What's more important is finding a way to separate the string into segments, which is done in a logical way (that can be done by a simple program).

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I've migrated to google chrome on a windows laptop. Same trouble, can't copy from the pdf and paste into the browser to search for any of the symbols.

• What exactly am I supposed to do here I looked them up and I know I have the right 7 but do I need 12 letters for the next step again because I am lost

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It's less arbitrary than I thought after all. I still liked my bruteforce approach xD

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Still working on the 7 metals. I assume I should separate the 53-strings to 12 part and somehow get the letters, and something related to chemistry is needed for the cutting.

• I am at this point too I have the 53 strings not sure where to go from here

• How do you know which way to order the 7 metals? It will be a key that is more or less than 12 so what do you do here?

• It seems none of the 7 elements would work as legit separator if we are still going to make 12 letters out of these.

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Thanks to some external rendering of badly made fonts, I'm on to Stage 3. 7 things repeated collectively 53 times, which being prime numbers does not lend itself to subdivision. And given the range of numbers involved, at least I can rule out ascii here.

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Agreed. So I believe that we need some certain order and an ordered part will be a natural segment. My first guess is metling point because of the background picture, but nothing reasonable was derived...

• Even Listener puzzle was better...

• Same here. I feel my brain starts melting while staring at the 53 strings. 😂

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I have another ordering which is more related to the 7 metals and the archetype in mind

but still no progress in separating and decoding the string :(

• I have a lot of ideas about the ordering, but without the separator I don't think any of my outputs are going to hit me in the face. There seems to be a pretty even distribution of the 7 things, so even if I map things --> numbers I don't know how I would translate that back to letters (assuming we again have a 12-letter URL)

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Nobody has confirmed how long the 53/7 puzzle's stage is, and we're assuming 12. But I've got a very visual method that renders the long string into 13 groups of 2-6 metals. And no comprehension or guesswork as to how to get alphabetic characters out of any of the groups.

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edited February 2020

As far as I can make 0ut, there is no mapping which will divide the elements into exactly 12 ordered segments.

• Can anyone confirm how long the key has to be for the 7 metals puzzle?

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Thanks. I even didn't realize why you had **** before you change it to 0, lol.

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Stupid forum software is stupid.

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edited February 2020

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The lengths of the keys to use in the tiny.cc urls is:

• 20 (startalchemistpuzzle)
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Sounds like you are on the correct path

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Use tiny.cc shorteners and only lowercase letters

This statement in the original post is a bit misleading because at one point you have use not only lowercase letters for the tiny.cc url. (But no uppercase letters)

• How does one know where to break the metals up into groups to get 13 I don't see any specific patterns that would point me that way?

• What is this method you speak of?

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Greeeeat. I don't suppose the encoding/decoding method I've never seen before has a name?

• What did you do to get there?

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A visual method? I don't understand. :-(