First Saturday - Allow Additional Time to Plan
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With the Ingress population decreasing, FevGames should allow more time to plan a First Saturday event. Our area wanted to confirm we would have ten agents, and the website was open yesterday morning for registration. However when we finally spent the time to register the event is declined, looking online there are at least 30 events without the minimum required (granted signup is not required).
Seeing the game isn't increasing in population since Pogo has portal submits, shouldn't we allow more time?
FYI - You do not need to use the email tied to your actual Ingress account to host a FS thru FevGames.
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If you want an IFS, plan ahead, register when the registration opens (it's been up for some time now for Feb), and then get your location set up. You can find the 10 people either in advance or after it goes up, and if you can't get them, try again the next month.
The registration isn't your only opportunity to determine if you have 10. In my region we already know where the March event will be too.
It's a suggestion to allow more time to register since the population is declining. Our geographical area has a population of 4M+, however there's under 100 active ingress players now.
The registration appeared open so a group of us organized then realized it was closed. Oh well, missed the deadline, just means total game population will continue to decrease.
Sometimes in life changes are required to the status quo, I believe FevGames could easily change this, if they cared.
The registration appeared open so a group of us organized then realized it was closed. Oh well, missed the deadline, just means total game population will continue to decrease.
It opens and closes on a fixed schedule every month. You can always sign up next month.
So fixed meaning there is room for improvement, which doesn't always happen.....
How does missing the deadline this time correlate to total game population for the area decreasing?
My dood. Take a break and calm down. Deadlines exist for one reason, so the event can be prepared, validated and passed onward to NIA for the beacons, badges and more. Without a deadline, no events would happen.
This is a fixed schedule and when we make global mistakes, its extended which does nothing but eat into the sleep and free labor of handful of agents which donate to the cause. In this situation, you were late. Not by a little either. It sucks I know, but there is always next month.
Fixed meaning predictable, and the fault of people not paying attention if they miss it because it's ... a fixed window.
The overall FevGames system needs to be improved since this game is losing players. What worked last February isn't the same now. Niantic could process the batch run seven days before, and it'll be okay.
I saw a survey in my inbox from Niantic, and left the same comment.
Prime.
I think you misunderstood. How does missing the deadline this time correlate to total game population for the area decreasing? You mentioned, "Oh well, missed the deadline, just means total game population will continue to decrease." Prime has nothing to do with the FS timeline.
Don't worry! @OctavianSmash
If you need more time for FS, you can take it two or three months. Because registration opportunities come every month.
Why don't you plan FS in April or May?
In fact, more FS are held every month than in the past.
Opportunity to improve the overall process.
Earth day planning is enough for that month.
The other reason to sign up earlier is that many players travel to other cities for these events if their hometown doesn't host one. Not knowing what the sites are going to be until 7 days before hand makes it harder for those people to make plans
... seriously?
And in case that isn't enough, there is actually a bit of leeway built into the system so that registrations that are up to 24 hours late are still accepted... which is why we do not make any exceptions if your event is rejected.
There is nothing stopping you from putting in minimal details for your event and updating them later once you figure out the specifics which is why the form stays open. You can edit portal details up until 7 days before, and you can update other details until the Friday before FS.
And how do you expect to get enough attendees if you're giving them less than two weeks notice?
This process has worked perfectly fine for 3800 events in 2019. And a key thing to keeping FS successful is clear, consistent and scalable rules. When you make a change to a system like this, it needs to apply to the 300+ events and the 7,000 to 10,000 attendees every single month.
And speaking about the number of events, January and February this year have 60 more events (+20%) each month than they did last year.
Seriously, change the rules going forward. Through communication we had enough, the system needs improvements in this game that has less players. THE SYSTEM WAS NOT CLOSED WHEN WE REGISTERED!!!!!!!!!!!
You can either help or be difficult. We registered and was declined. I don't care about the AP. I tried to volunteer to help, it's over a week away. Clearly the system needs improvements.
The form does not close once registration of new events are closed because organisers still need to use the form to update their event details.
We use Google Forms because it's free and easy to use so we're bound to it's few limitations. I'm not writing an entire brand new interface and backend from scratch because one person out of thousands that have used it has an issue missing the half dozen signs that the registrations were no longer being accepted. I'd rather spend my spare time making cool new things that people do actually want and appreciate. None of us are getting paid for this, we're all just volunteer players.
I don't get why you keep saying there's less players when there's actually more players participating in FS compared to this time last year.... even IF there were less players... how would giving them less notice for an event help the situation?
You're the only person in this thread and in the FS community that wants to make things harder for FS attendees...
I think allowing communities to register 9 to 10 days out is okay. We attempted to register 13 days before, clearly the system is broken.
Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency or anything needing fixing on @cluelessness/Fevgame's part. The deadline is clearly posted, next time plan better.
Last thing I'm gonna say on this.
What would you say if Niantic announced an anomaly or mission day less than 2 weeks before the date? Or what do you think the community would say?
You submitted your registration on Wednesday when registration closed on the Saturday before, I can see the timestamp in the list. Nothing is broken and it's working perfectly as intended. We won't be changing it unless there is an overwhelming majority vote in the FS community for that change which seems extremely unlikely seeing everyone else's response to your comments.
If you plan ahead you could start now!
The system is broken, 13 days before is plenty of time to do a First Saturday event.
@cluelessness You act like Niantic announces Pogo events with more notice.
****... seriously?
The Event registration has a very large clear banner that says:
That one will usually tell you when the close date is.
Then the actual form you fill also says:
And the organiser's guide is clear too:
You were in the FS Slack Workspace which had this broadcast in the notifications channel:
And in case that isn't enough, there is actually a bit of leeway built into the system so that registrations that are up to 24 hours late are still accepted... which is why we don't make any exceptions if you your event is rejected.
There is nothing stopping you from putting in minimal details for your event and updating them later once you figure out the specifics which is why the form stays open. You can edit portal details up until 7 days before, and you can update other details until the Friday before FS.
And how do you expect to get enough attendees if you're giving them less than two weeks notice?
This process has worked perfectly fine for 3800 events in 2019. And a key thing to keeping FS successful is clear, consistent and scalable rules. When you make a change to a system like this, it needs to apply to the 300+ events and the 7,000 to 10,000 attendees every single month.
And speaking about the number of events, January and February this year have 60 more events (+20%) each month than they did last year.
The system is still broken, it allowed me to register and be denied. All outside of the 7 day window.
It's not broken @OctavianSmash you just didn't hit submit on your form before the cutoff.
Please stop repeating the same comments.
The only broken thing is the entitlement of people who think that because they failed to plan or act, everyone should bend over backwards and rush at the last moment for them.
7 days is for edits, not registration.
The overarching system is broken, and needs to be adjusted with time.
Repeating an invalid argument doesn't improve it.
The system is broken, what's your point?
This thread rather looks like a broken record than a broken system.