I highly suggest showing passion for the submission. Not just the food is good, why else is it special? Below is one of my examples of an approved hidden gem.
Just saying the food is good doesn't really elevate it beyond generic business. Do they make something unique to them that became a huge hit like those donut croissant things in NYC? Do they have regular events and awards? Have they contributed greatly to the community?
That's really subjective and again just having good food doesn't push it beyond being a generic business. I live in California and 1* generic business every restaurant that only talks about their food being good or the best in town (usually tacos because California) since it really doesn't mean anything. Have they gotten awards for those rolls? Tell us what they are and where we can find proof of it
A restaurant you really like is hard to get approved. Is it locally owned and operated? For how long? How do they contribute to the community? Awards of any sort?
Awards for best rolls, is that actually a thing somewhere?
In my country nobody gives awards to restaurants. Pretty much the only thing that food places can brag about is getting top marks on health inspections, but that doesn't translate directly to popularity or how good the food tastes. Nor am I aware of any that have any non-generic 'regular events'. A lot of bars and such have stages for musicians and run live shows on fridays/weekends, but that's pretty generic. Age doesn't seem like a good way to measure it either: most of the oldest businesses around here are shabby and on their last leg.
So I'm not sure how we're supposed to measure a 'non-generic' restaurants over here, if not by the food quality and popularity. Both of which are quite subjective.
if that is a trully local gem and was denied just because didnt put an essay of info then the pokemon go players if vote yes have better criteria than ingress players...
Not sure what you mean by unplayable BS. The area is pretty well stocked with portals. It does get covered with BAFs regularly and for long periods of time, but other than that it is a great place to live, work and play.
Ok, Now I know you were referring to the BAF, I don't disagree with you. Provo sometimes stays under BAFs longer than SLC because the Resistance has no resistance from the enlightened.
I'm currently working on getting two restaurants in Beckley, WV through OPR. The first attempts at both were rejected, but this time, I think I have a detailed enough descriptions to show their merits as local attractions providing I can get around the character limit.
Fujiyama is Beckley's premier Japanese steak house and a popular spot for locals and travelers from the nearby I-64/77 who are looking for a dining experience beyond the ordinary. Fujiyama features several open rooms were talented hibachi chefs prepare meals in front of the customers. The front entrance also features several wood carvings and a koi pond in the main hall.
Located in the historic Foster Hardware Building, stepping into Foster's Main Street Tavern is a step back in time. The tavern preserves the original brick walls, colorful tin ceiling and mezzanine of the 1917 hardware store. An eclectic mix of art, art deco, and classic advertising signs decorate the walls. A bar is located downstairs that captures the spirit of a 1920 speakeasy. Foster's is cited as a recommended local business by both residences and WVU Tech students in a 2018 assessment of Uptown Beckley.
I think I have a detailed enough descriptions to show their merits as local attractions providing I can get around the character limit.
I don't know if you know this, but if you edit the description in Wayfarer, you can increase the description size beyond the measly ca. 255 characters the app gives us. Not sure what the max size is because I haven't tried it with anything too long yet, but I will soon.
Just submit the koi pond and forget about the rest. All the words words words words words just sound like you are trying to overhype the same generic hibachi every town has.
all Japanese Steakhouses being exactly alike is the definition of being generic. They are all the same everywhere. The one closest to me has an indoor koi pond that is a portal
I’ve been to plenty of Japanese Steakhouses and they are all vastly different and quality ranges greatly. If you sat there and said because Japan has a lot of Hibachi places then this one in West Virginia can’t be unique because it’s generic in Japan... that’s not logical at all.
One might be generic in your community might not be in @TheFarix, you need to judge each candidate individually not group it.
All Japanese steakhouses are certainly not alike. Some are Japanese in menu only with a modern, regular decor (like the one in my town that I would not submit as a portal because it's boring. Good, but boring), and then you have ones that go all out with decorations and flair.
As for "words words words", it's called "supporting your submission", dude. A restaurant being a restaurant doesn't make it generic by default.
Now, back to OP:
I've had lots of restaurants approved (and some not, because of reviewers who think a restaurant is the same as any other restaurant and there's no way you can change their mind), and the key is to add a good amount of subjectivity, as well as some cold hard facts. Like the others said, have they been awarded something for these rolls? Even if it's from a local paper, that still counts. Not that I don't believe you about the rolls - I would probably give you a three based on this submission. But you really want to sell it.
Googling the place, some things I might mention: the bakery making those rolls from scratch, the very homey decor (also that fireplace is awesome). Looks cozy. Looks popular.
I dunno, I hope some of this helps. It looks like a good place and a candidate I would vote for, and hopefully you get some good reviewers next time as well.
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News paper coverage? Awards? Regular events?
Normally, I'm pretty lenient on locally owned restaurants. But I at least want to see some evidence that people regularly gather there.
I highly suggest showing passion for the submission. Not just the food is good, why else is it special? Below is one of my examples of an approved hidden gem.
Just saying the food is good doesn't really elevate it beyond generic business. Do they make something unique to them that became a huge hit like those donut croissant things in NYC? Do they have regular events and awards? Have they contributed greatly to the community?
Well I did say they had the best rolls....
That's really subjective and again just having good food doesn't push it beyond being a generic business. I live in California and 1* generic business every restaurant that only talks about their food being good or the best in town (usually tacos because California) since it really doesn't mean anything. Have they gotten awards for those rolls? Tell us what they are and where we can find proof of it
Great comments, folks.
A restaurant you really like is hard to get approved. Is it locally owned and operated? For how long? How do they contribute to the community? Awards of any sort?
Awards for best rolls, is that actually a thing somewhere?
In my country nobody gives awards to restaurants. Pretty much the only thing that food places can brag about is getting top marks on health inspections, but that doesn't translate directly to popularity or how good the food tastes. Nor am I aware of any that have any non-generic 'regular events'. A lot of bars and such have stages for musicians and run live shows on fridays/weekends, but that's pretty generic. Age doesn't seem like a good way to measure it either: most of the oldest businesses around here are shabby and on their last leg.
So I'm not sure how we're supposed to measure a 'non-generic' restaurants over here, if not by the food quality and popularity. Both of which are quite subjective.
A business that has live music is a performing arts space and should fit that criteria.
Otherwise I'd look for things that do fit criteria like fountains, murals, statues etc.
Maybe find a business that has historical value or like @AgentB0ss example was visited by notable people.
wait until pokemon players can mass vote.
Is it weird that Provo, Utah makes me cringe and I don't even live anywhere near your unplayable BS?
This comment ages well 😂😂😂
if that is a trully local gem and was denied just because didnt put an essay of info then the pokemon go players if vote yes have better criteria than ingress players...
Yes, it is.
Not sure what you mean by unplayable BS. The area is pretty well stocked with portals. It does get covered with BAFs regularly and for long periods of time, but other than that it is a great place to live, work and play.
The BAF situation is bad enough that I'm aware of it from across the country lol.
OMG, I actually reviewed and accepted this one.
Ok, Now I know you were referring to the BAF, I don't disagree with you. Provo sometimes stays under BAFs longer than SLC because the Resistance has no resistance from the enlightened.
Legit, took me 3 Upgrades. The problem was there was an errant photosphere someone made but finally got it approved :)
You did a much better job of selling it as a local gem on the third try. If I remember the first one, just just submitted it as a patio.
The first I did do the patio, and the restaurant as a whole.
The second and third tries were the exact same.
I'm currently working on getting two restaurants in Beckley, WV through OPR. The first attempts at both were rejected, but this time, I think I have a detailed enough descriptions to show their merits as local attractions providing I can get around the character limit.
Fujiyama is Beckley's premier Japanese steak house and a popular spot for locals and travelers from the nearby I-64/77 who are looking for a dining experience beyond the ordinary. Fujiyama features several open rooms were talented hibachi chefs prepare meals in front of the customers. The front entrance also features several wood carvings and a koi pond in the main hall.
Located in the historic Foster Hardware Building, stepping into Foster's Main Street Tavern is a step back in time. The tavern preserves the original brick walls, colorful tin ceiling and mezzanine of the 1917 hardware store. An eclectic mix of art, art deco, and classic advertising signs decorate the walls. A bar is located downstairs that captures the spirit of a 1920 speakeasy. Foster's is cited as a recommended local business by both residences and WVU Tech students in a 2018 assessment of Uptown Beckley.
I think I have a detailed enough descriptions to show their merits as local attractions providing I can get around the character limit.
I don't know if you know this, but if you edit the description in Wayfarer, you can increase the description size beyond the measly ca. 255 characters the app gives us. Not sure what the max size is because I haven't tried it with anything too long yet, but I will soon.
Just submit the koi pond and forget about the rest. All the words words words words words just sound like you are trying to overhype the same generic hibachi every town has.
I don't know where you are from, but hibachis are an extremely rare type of restaurant.
And what does that have to do with a hibachi restaurant in West Virginia? They are the extreme opposite of generic.
all Japanese Steakhouses being exactly alike is the definition of being generic. They are all the same everywhere. The one closest to me has an indoor koi pond that is a portal
I’ve been to plenty of Japanese Steakhouses and they are all vastly different and quality ranges greatly. If you sat there and said because Japan has a lot of Hibachi places then this one in West Virginia can’t be unique because it’s generic in Japan... that’s not logical at all.
One might be generic in your community might not be in @TheFarix, you need to judge each candidate individually not group it.
All Japanese steakhouses are certainly not alike. Some are Japanese in menu only with a modern, regular decor (like the one in my town that I would not submit as a portal because it's boring. Good, but boring), and then you have ones that go all out with decorations and flair.
As for "words words words", it's called "supporting your submission", dude. A restaurant being a restaurant doesn't make it generic by default.
Now, back to OP:
I've had lots of restaurants approved (and some not, because of reviewers who think a restaurant is the same as any other restaurant and there's no way you can change their mind), and the key is to add a good amount of subjectivity, as well as some cold hard facts. Like the others said, have they been awarded something for these rolls? Even if it's from a local paper, that still counts. Not that I don't believe you about the rolls - I would probably give you a three based on this submission. But you really want to sell it.
Googling the place, some things I might mention: the bakery making those rolls from scratch, the very homey decor (also that fireplace is awesome). Looks cozy. Looks popular.
I dunno, I hope some of this helps. It looks like a good place and a candidate I would vote for, and hopefully you get some good reviewers next time as well.