Bowling Alleys. Good or 1*?
Are Bowling Alleys good candidates? i just had one "1* generic" failed. trying to figure out why and what i would need to do to get it approved. I thought they were along the lines of other family fun centers that get approved.
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Depends very much on the description. Though I am inclined to lean towards accept.
i shall re submit with better pic and description then. I do that with most all my rejects that i feel should be in, but this one was weird i felt to get rejected.
I would 5 star. It is a great interactive entertainment location
I’ve submitted a few before, always got accepted for me
I have wondered this too. I know there is a chain of arcades with bowling alleys called round 1 that is very popular in japan and have been on a tear expanding into the U.S. in empty anchor stores in malls. Here a long time ago an agent got the gigantic bowling pin outside the mall approved.
Accept, but a decent pic, a good description and strong supporting pic all help. Probably getting rejected as generic business.
Bowling Alleys. Laser Tag. Escape Rooms. Paintball. Driving Ranges. Golf Courses. Roller Rinks. Ice Skating.
They all encourage activity in a group setting.
The only one with any explicit directives from Niantic was a golf course, that when we submit things there, keep the location pin out of the field of play.
restaurants create ''activity in a group setting'' yet are generic business unles is hidden gem or local hotspot
what difference has a bowling alley or anything of that kind? is a generic business of bowling...if something like this goes in then every single generic business should go in then
i 1 star those because if i would 5 star then whats the point of generic business as reject reason
the only business that should go in, no matter what kind are the ones considered hidden gems or local hotspots incredible artichecture or unique looks, etc, even a street bazaar can depending in factors...if not, is just a generic business...
dont just click on disagree, try to change my mind...i bet you cant, a simple bowling alley is just a generic business, you cant change that you just can click in disagree and as long niantic dont explicit say ''all bowling alleys can go in'' i will continue to 1 star it
bowling is an official sport though. It isn't generic if submitted the right way.
Niantic WANTS community activities that encourage exercise. And bowling is an Olympics sport!
There is a faaaar cry between "Patty's Nail Salon" and "Bubba's Hardware", and these places that encourage fitness. And I cannot see any fundamental difference between a bowling alley and an ice skating rink, besides that in one you're paying the city for the privilege, and in another you're paying a guy who maintains a space suitable for family birthday parties and community get-togethers.
It's an athletic venue and obvious approval. If you approve playgrounds, basketball courts, volleyball pits, tennis courts, skating rinks, baseball fields, golf courses, etc it makes obvious sense to approve them. A restaurant doesn't encourage you to mingle with people around you, just your party, nor does it encourage engaging in physical activities. Your comparison is weak.
generic business is that, a business, a bowling alley is a business of bowling, a restaurant is a business of food, a random cafe shop is a business of cafe, a place where nails for women are done is that a business of nails, etc
parks, playgrounds, courts, free skate courtgrounds, tennis courts, etc which are around dont have anything to do with generic business, because guess what? its free, you dont pay, everybody can go in, its for the community for use
the criteria is very clear, hidden gems, local hot spots, unique architecture, made by famous person of the community, etc you guys are those that make their own subjective criteria
a random bowling alley doesnt go as an stadium neither, that is a major transit hub of sports is very different
if you were to accept every single random generic bowling alley around, then there is no point to even have generic business as reject criteria, every single cafe, pizzeria, can go in as well because people gather there and can have a nice chat so the comparison isnt weak, your arguments are weak, i win, bye
How "generic" are bowling alleys where YOU live? I'm in an area with around 200-300k people and we have an astounding 4 bowling alleys. Not exactly something you see all over town, and they obviously qualify as a popular spot where locals gather.
So, sure, bowling alleys may not differ much from each other (just like churches), but they're certainly not generic like the hundreds of restaurants in the area. But, I concede. You clearly are on a path to get more disagrees on here by a landslide, so sure, you win.
Disneyworld is a generic business, but it's acceptable. The definition that matters is "generic" not "business".
Paying to do something does not exclude something from meeting criteria. Indoor soccer centers and volleyball courts etc are businesses that still promote exercise and meet criteria
We have to pay for education and those are typically not more than a generic building but those still meet criteria.
A bowling alley meets the promotes exercise criteria and it's a gathering place. I've never seen a bowling alley empty on a weekend night. They get rejected where I am though.
Your thesis boils down to that because something is a business, it should be rejected. However, that is not what Niantic means with the phrase "generic business". Let's start with the meaning of generic. According to Merriam-Webster, there are four definitions; however, I think only the third applies here, "having no particularly distinctive quality or application".
So what makes a bowling alley distinctive? Well, for starters, it is an athletic venue. Second, people do congregate there, either as part of a league or just having fun with friends. This falls squarely into the local attractions (formerly hyper-local spot) category, which Niantic defines as three different things, but the most relevant definition in this case is "popular spots where locals gather but are lesser-known outside the community."
In the Potentially Confusing Nominations section, Niantic states that "generic local businesses don't meet criteria on their own without having historical/cultural value, community significance, or distinctive architecture." Note that so long as a business has historical/cultural value, community significance, or distinctive architecture, then they are eligible as waypoints.
Bowling alleys have cultural value as they are a field for a distinctive sport that is enjoyed by millions of people. They also have community significance because they are meeting places for locals and visitors and host birthday parties, community bowling leagues, and other group activities. Distinctive architecture will vary from bowling alley to bowling alley, but a particularly good looking alley should fill this as well.
In conclusion, there is no reason to reject a bowling alley as a generic business. If you are, then you are really not following Niantic's guidelines, and in the process, you are misapplying the phrase "generic business" to mean something that Niantic never intended it to mean.
generic business is generic business, then lets approve every single karate dojo too and even better every single golf hole...keep bringing the disagree guys, i won this i am amazed of how people not even understand what a business is and what generic means not to count what the both words mean together, you keep bringing ''place where people gather'' but you dont simple understand
thread done, i won, i know you all mean to click on insightful but your pride dont let you, so you all spamming in disagree which it was abuse in the past, you all need to retake the test and many generic business should be put with some hidden gems/local hotspots you are just going to struggle...and fail
bye my fans, ill be back
I only see one person in this thread who doesn't understand Generic Business.
A great example would be a Burger Joint your average burger join is fairly generic, the food might be decent but nothing extraordinary, just a good place to grab an easy bite but not remarkable.
Now on the other hand the BEST burger join in your city/county/state etc its won awards its featured on the news etc, while its a business its no longer "Generic" as its known/special.
Now something could be a Generic Business and be approved. In the states we have AMF Bowling alleys and honestly these are fairly generic Bowling Alleys. However, bowling is a sport and remember things only need 1 approval criteria to be approved. A Bowling Alley would be equivalent to a Baseball Field, both are considered Athletic locations and should be approved.
You just mentioned Karate Dojo, while a lot of bigger cities might have quiet a few its just athletics and should be approved, just like every Baseball Diamond at a park. It promotes adventure/exercise.
Generic Business isnt on the "Do Not Submit" list, but Athletic "Fields" are on the approve list. As you put it "THREAD WON" ill also add "MIC DROPPED". BOOM.
Bowling alley should definitely be acceptable.
interesting, someone who can barely string sentences together is arguing what a term like generic business means
To me, they are a form of recreation. I will continue to vote favorably until Niantic includes a definitive stance in their Help section.
They're a major hangout spot and athletic venue. Anyone 1-starring them can enjoy missing out on easy agreements while the rest of us give 4-5 stars.