Wayfarer Beta coming to Pokémon Go Soon™

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  • Since level 10 in ingress + level 40 in pogo was a requested entry point, it would not be unreasonable to allow them first access. Plus, they are a handful of dedicated people to grind to level 10. That should be rewarded. Although I believe there will be pogo only players only included in the subset too.

  • MoogModularMoogModular ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it escaped beta when it became public around the end of September 2017. At the time, Niantic called this "Phase Two"

  • Depends on the area. I'm in a PoGo discord with all the other reviewers in my area and I always review every one of their subs, and they review all of mine. There are other locations mixed in as well of course, but if you want to review local subs, doing a session of OPR lets us review them all pretty easily.

  • It's not so much an assumption as being active on The Silph Road and seeing people constantly rave about how they're gonna 5 star everything once PoGo gets Wayfarer access because Ingress players are "too strict" and "more stops and gyms are always a good thing".

  • TSR would have guides on gaming Adventure Sync distance within an hour if that was the requirement.

  • What they fail realize is Naintic could easily handle this in-house with only rural priority submissions being reviewed. This is especially true in the US. They have legal obligations. Just follow their rules and you can maximize your fun but you might not get absolutely everything you want as a stop/gym.

  • GearGliderGearGlider ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a good idea, if it's a Pokemon Go player reviewing, or a new reviewer in general, make it so the waypoints they review are in a donut, not far away enough to be foreign, but not close enough to have a conflict of interest.


    Then when they get to a high enough rating or a certain number of agreements, THEN they can review local submissions.

  • I only know a couple others beside me who are over 10,000km. I would never suggest that for real lol.

  • JSteve0JSteve0 ✭✭✭

    I have had my bonus locations set to the Dominican Republic and Colombia and there is a great need for reviewers in these locales.

  • JSteve0JSteve0 ✭✭✭

    Most of the folks on my local Ingress Telegram OPR chat are constantly admitting they haven't reviewed for months because 60-80% of what is in their queue is not from our area. PoGo reviewers will be the same perhaps even more prone to dropping the reviewing process because it takes patience to make an impact on your local area.

  • JSteve0JSteve0 ✭✭✭

    I seem to remember the OPR website carrying the BETA tag up until the day it was retired.

  • From my point of view -

    I know that not all Pokemon Players are not Evil, Criteria Twisting , Selfish people. Most of the ones in my area undestand the Ingress (now Niantic) criteria.

    BUT ! One of them is exactly like the submitter formally known as TimerCIock (TC). He started an Ingress account, and Leveled up to L10, then L12 (he didn't buy the account) He has submitted "Dog Poop Stations", moved the location of POI's by 20 -30 meters so that it was in a different S2 Cell. I would agree with the above TC. He even submitted a POI as a "Rest Area" -that actually is a Bathroom in a park. He has set out as a goal to get all of his friends to do the same, so they can have "A Stop or Gym wherever we want"

    It has been my experience from OPR (and yes, I have over 20K reviews) is that while Ingress Agents before would occasionally suggest POT's that were not very Interesting (A statue of a dog in their back yard, etc). But rarely was a POI moved 20+ meters to enhance the map.

    I again emphisise that not all Pokemon players are Troglodytes. But a distinct few give them all a bad impression to us long term Ingress Agents.

    (Gets off my soapbox, and drags it back to the closet)

  • AgentB0ss

    Thank you for your comment! It brings a much needed perspective on the issue.

    Also, for full disclosure - I was a Beta Tester for Pokemon . Once it came out for general play, I stopped playing I was at L14 . (apparently, I've walked over 130 KM since then).

  • SoylentGrienSoylentGrien ✭✭✭✭✭

    This could easily be solved with spot checks and honey traps. 3 strikes for those who approve coal.

  • KliffingtonKliffington ✭✭✭✭✭

    This was posted on Silph Road

  • I agree the removal criteria need modified, but I don't think retribution is the answer. Even before OPR, back when Niantic had all the say, the portal criteria were different. Fountains for instance used to be perfectly acceptable and went through the system in droves. When OPR released, fountains found themselves (rightfully) on the wrong side of the mark. By your argument, every person who submitted a fountain that got approved would now get strikes against them.

    I think a minimum approval rating- say 65-70% (or better, I'd have to see overall stats)- of your submissions getting approved should continue your access to Wayfarer submissions, reevaluated after every 10th approval. If you're lower than that, you don't get as many new available submissions when they renew. You could also use the same system to increase submission numbers for good submitters: say 95%+ over a period nets you an extra 5 submissions.

    In theory, or at least in my head, this would give players with solid submissions more opportunities to submit good candidates and reduce the numbers of bad actors who are trying to game the system.

    Potential problems: 1) Ingress players that use the same email for PoGO or HPWU as Wayfarer seems to only be for the email account. Would bad PoGO submissions hurt your Ingress numbers? Do they combine, or are they separate? 2) Limited opportunity to regain submission ability

    Thoughts?

  • AgentB0ssAgentB0ss ✭✭✭✭✭

    It appears that PoGo Wayfarer reviewing has opened up for some users in Mexico tonight. It appears the test is the exact same and no changes.

  • OGMagusOGMagus ✭✭✭

    So - same test. OK. We should still be discussing it but here's what I think will happen:

    The general population who have never submitted before, will submit "whatever", and we can expect a deluge of new stuff to review. The backlog will increase immedeately, and many will write it off as "not working" even before they get the reply (among other rude wakenings as to how easy this would be).The rectections will further demotiveate sumbitters. Still, going forward, we can expect an increase in (poor) submissions. We, as reviewers, will get more work.

    The general population who have newer reviewed before will last a day, maybe two (!!) The misconceptions have been discussed before, I'll just summarize "it's boring , free work looking at medium-to -shitty portals from across the country"- Going forward, only a handful of people will continue to review. So, little help for os that already review.

    Now what of these "vandals", they who purposely create havoc "for gameplay reasons" (or pure malice!), why do I not think we should worry about them? Becuase they have already made Ingress account(s) and are already active. Yes, they have now extra submissions but we are used to dealing with these already.

    TL:DR: Much more submissions, few new reviewers, carry on

  • Most are going to just submit even if they can get theirs fast-tracked by reviewing. The sheer volume will most likely keep anyone with many many accounts from manipulating by manually reviewing.. It mostly bots that could wreck havoc.

  • That's an extremely good point. The gold badges make botting to OPR not feasible in Ingress without getting caught, but in PoGo if the req is L40, people can just make massive bot farms that go to L40, then just 5 star every review till they get Poor status, then rinse and repeat.

  • AgentB0ssAgentB0ss ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just came to I say that that! Stealing my thunder 😂😂😂

  • JSteve0JSteve0 ✭✭✭

    Fountains are out? I thought fountains were high quality but water spouts in the middle of lakes and ponds were out.

  • GearGliderGearGlider ✭✭✭✭✭

    Korea has Wayfarer now

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