I just want to approve local stuff!

Why am I stuck approving candidates in California when I live in Virginia, and know that there are MANY candidates in Southwest Virginia that need to be approved, and yet I have just done over 100 candidates on Wayfarer, and not a single one was even in the state of Virginia??


GAHH!!!


Is there a way to delete my play area history so it only uses my hometown location? I can't read the language in France, or in Singapore, nor have I been to those places, but I have been to Hawaii and to England? Explain that...

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  • KliffingtonKliffington ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've never been to most of the places I get reviews for so I don't think it's something you can control

  • Don't you think there should be an option to only review local stuff, though? If I want to review stuff on the other side of the planet, I'll say so. But I can't imagine anyone else doesn't share my frustration with not seeing local stuff come through when we know our local agents are submitting things.

  • The thing of it is, only people local to the area really know if a submission is good or not. It may look great on paper but maybe it's a temporary thing, or maybe someone photoshopped it really well into a picture of the real area. These things have happened here before and it was only local agents who spotted the infractions and got them changed.

  • KliffingtonKliffington ✭✭✭✭✭

    And that's what portal removals/appeals are for if something gets through the reviewers

  • So, the answer to my frustration is just to keep approving stuff I can't read, and hope that RNGesus decides to favor my area once in a blue moon?

  • Another thing to keep in mind only 1 portal in an area (I believe its a level 8 S2 cell) can be reviewed at a time. So i had 30 portals in my area that came back one at a time once every few weeks. 85% of my play zone is in 1 Level 8 cell. That means the only way i could see local portals is if someone else submitted them in my area.

  • slalomzslalomz ✭✭✭

    If everyone just reviewed portals in places they've actually been:

    1. There would be much more incentive to accept bad submissions, as you may benefit from them. Especially true for PoGo/HP players.
    2. There would be much more incentive to reject portals in "enemy territory". You might recognize that area as somewhere local controlled by the other faction, and rate it poorly based on that. Only true for Ingress players.
    3. It would be much easier to collaborate with a local group to abuse Wayfarer in some way.

    Niantic knows all these things and that's why most candidates you get to review are from a very large radius and only rarely include candidates in the exact places you go to.

  • ZaltysZaltys ✭✭✭
    edited October 2019


    No, because it would be abused. Local players are far more biased when voting for local spots. Low-quality portals get approved, and valid portals get rejected because they would be too convenient to someone on the opposing team (such as valid couch portals).

  • AgentX1976AgentX1976 ✭✭✭
    edited October 2019

    Where is that information stated? Or how was it determined? I currently have 92 portals in the queue, but probably a third of them are up for voting. Many within the same Level 8 cell, some even in the same level 14 cell.

  • harkonnnenharkonnnen ✭✭✭✭

    They have mentioned in a AMA about the problem agents face when they get submissions in a different language, so while there is no ETA on a solution the problem has been noticed and they are aware.

    They have eliminated the set review areas due to abuse and various bias that was present. By reviewing a submission several hundred kilometers away you are more likely to review it with no bias as it has no benefit etc to you.

  • Level 8 cells are huge. If they do limit by cell, which I’ve gotten conflicting signals about, the size would be much, much smaller. And, to be honest, a diameter restriction would make much more sense, but would probably be harder to code.

  • GearGliderGearGlider ✭✭✭✭✭

    I understand that having far away portals to review is to help prevent abuse, but when one out of every 200 or so reviews is a portal in an area I actually recognize as being in or around my city, it’s just a total motivation killer. I want to help my community! I actually know the area around here!


    At least there are upgrades, but it’s so frustrating that “upgrade next” is broken.

  • kholman1kholman1 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2019

    the truth! I had to upgrade my own submissions for an agreement to see some that were stuck behind mine due to my submission being in limbo for 4 months

  • kholman1kholman1 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2019

    @GearGlider they aren't always broken. I have had several upgrade next portals get upgraded. If you have a ton of pending submissions they work just fine just select one as you get 100 agreements so they don't automatically chose next round as the upgrade next is choosing the submission you want upgraded after the next 100 agreements not using an upgrade when you earn it. As a matter of fact 4 of my upgrades after wayfarer went live have come back with answers.

  • @kholman1 wish I got upgrades that fast.

  • GearGliderGearGlider ✭✭✭✭✭

    ugh i wished mine worked. With 87% to my next upgrade, I chose a portal to upgrade next, only for it to be approved before I got the upgrade. Now I can’t upgrade next anything, it’s stuck on the approved before upgraded portal.

  • kholman1kholman1 ✭✭✭✭

    are you in a rural area? I have had to wait a few days for upgrades to get response on months old submissions it is like my area had a nosedive in amount of reviewers and slammed with a ton of prime and redacted submissions.

  • It's not posted any where but I had 40 subs go through 1 at a time all within 10km of my house. Looking back on it now it might be lvl 10 cells for review and 8 for rural selection. I used to track all my approvals and It was very obvious. Its real sad but they also go newest to oldest. I resubbed a park sign 5 time when upgrades came out hoping to get it approved before the other park features got approved. That's why people have 4 and 5 year old submissions.

  • kholman1kholman1 ✭✭✭✭

    What has happened is it looks like a lot of agents have gone on voting leading to a lot of backlog clearing. I noticed around 700+ agreements come flooding through over the last 5 days. It is like we are at the same point when upgrades were fresh and new and everyone was voting. It would be nice to have official vote tallies back as I am going to suspect a spike since thursday afternoon to test the new choose your upgrade feature.

  • Yeah, the new system hasn't brought people back locally. Takes about a week for me to get an upgrade, but I still seem to get regular reviews and a fairly constant basis. Definitely not as fast as a few months ago.

  • Well I have many In voting, and 3 thst are in the same park, with a few others in the queue. Counted them up and about 60% are in voting. I will get multiple a day back with a decision as well so I don't think what you are saying is as accurate as you may think.

  • kholman1kholman1 ✭✭✭✭

    At the same time it could be your park is in multiple L14 cells. But yes there seems to be either an x amount of votes needed to trigger the next submission into voting or something is off in fringe cases. I have seen multiple things in the same time as well and I have figured it was the submissions have had enough votes to be in the system. I do know I submitted about 11 submissions in a single L14 cell it took two months to clear out in a rural area. It did seem that only one of those submissions were in voting at a time until it got upgraded then I had a few answers come back close together.

  • kholman1kholman1 ✭✭✭✭

    It might be isolated or I happened to hit a lot of submissions just a few votes short when the system allowed me to reset my bonus location just short of a year (likely an glitch) or my bonus new took in the old system as soon as the system migrated over.

  • OGMagusOGMagus ✭✭✭

    OP; I remember that sentiment from when I was new and it's important for the future, because just about everyone will meet this wall when they join the review team.

    (Fact of the matter is, in this position, you review what's in your feed, that's it - all over the country)

    @MichaelSorens what do you think could be done differently to ease reviewers in to the actual experience?

  • TheFarixTheFarix ✭✭✭✭✭

    I fully understand the desire to focus on local nominations. While I don't mind reviewing nominations from elsewhere in the US, I would prefer that local nominations take priority in my queue. That is why I worked my way to L12 in the first place (to help my local community approve more waypoints), and it seems that any time I review a local nomination, my review is one of the last ones that pushes out a return.

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