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  • TheFarixTheFarix ✭✭✭✭✭
  • Picture and title are because ingress players are overly analytical about things because you guys choose to be. You don't follow what niantic even says.

    Written by niantic..... you are wrong...

  • Title wayspot may not have an official title.

    Description is not required... And can wayspot is important.

    That is pretty clear....

  • harkonnnenharkonnnen ✭✭✭✭

    No you mistaken

    The question is asked straight up and there is even an auto scroll as you mark your rankings. Rating a submission 1* is reviewing it correctly and is why you ahould take a good clear picture. You are not expected to go through the whole process to the bottom only to then scroll back upt o the top to them make that call.

  • It says they are allowed if you can prove something significant about them. Being used by the community for a gathering spot is allowed and per guide. Being used in fishing spots that are hidden gems and allowed are creating an atmosphere for the community to enjoy.... its allowed. It's not just a picnic table. That is significant about them. It makes them just not a picnic table.

  • harkonnnenharkonnnen ✭✭✭✭

    You should really take a moment and read through your screen pics.

    A clear picture is beyond understandable as yes as you said ingress players are overly analytical which I assume translates into making sure this POI actually exists and in the correct spot. Easier to so with a clear image.

    An official title simple means well exacfly what it says, if a park has a sign that reads Horse Park. Thats it's official title and what any random in the street would know where you where talking about if you mentioned it. But alot of murals and artwork have not title and it falls to the submitter to select a creative and appropriate one e.g. A park that has not name will often just be call "whatever street it's on" Park. Thats clearly all that means.

    You only are against descriptions because all you could put for what you want as POI is "It's a table you can sit at it", "it provides bag, so pick up after your dog".

  • AgentB0ssAgentB0ss ✭✭✭✭✭

    Significant, a picnic tables standard use is a gathering/seating location. So that is its normal/primary function. What sets these picnic tables apartment from every other picnic table.

  • KliffingtonKliffington ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why are you trying to convince us? You're clearly right! Submit them and come back when they get approved and show us how wrong we are


  • You are reading to thoroughly into what is needed. The agent already made the decision that it is significant enough to be submitted. The scene that is created is allowed to be viewed. It is no different than a baseball field or playground that is used everywhere. This is a new system and everything should be reviewed.... Because there is no baseline currently for everything....


    If the picture is a picnic table with the title named picnic table, with the description saying a picnic table, than I agree with you that is a picnic table submission.


    If the picture is of a picnic area by a tree, than it is a picnic area, because most people would prefer shade from the tree.... It is using the natural environment with a picnic table to create a picnic area that people would use.


    If the picture is of a shoreline with a picnic area, than it is not a picnic table, it is a fishing spot that is also used for picnic areas.


    That is showing significant use for a picnic table per the guide.

  • harkonnnenharkonnnen ✭✭✭✭

    Again you repeat yourself and somehow think that changes what your actually saying. What exactly would make a Picnic table in a park ineligible in your world?

    What is different about 1 bench or picnic table in 1 park over a bench or picnic table in another park?

    In the many screen pics you have posted it clearly says not all would be acceptable. But in your repeated argument you just think labeling them community blah blah is enough.

  • GearGliderGearGlider ✭✭✭✭✭

    I own and live in all picnic tables, therefor they are PRPs and ineligable for portal nominations.

    @TimerCIock stop trying to make PRPs portals.


  • So, I haven't checked in for 2 days - and this is STILL a point of discussion. There is nothing "informational" about a Dog Poop sign. No one is going to read the sign, slap their forehead , and exclaim "I NEVER KNEW THAT".

    Unless there are some truly dense people in Baltimore .

  • AgentB0ssAgentB0ss ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, and as the submitter it is your job to convey that it is significant. However, if your reasoning for Significance is that its used as seating/eat/gathering spot thats a standard use for a Picnic Table. If thats all you got for it then thats all picnic tables...

  • Well when people can't see what significant means... You have a major issue with how submissions are still being reviewed. Picnic areas are allowed. Picnic Areas are allowed. Until my submssions get approved like they should be. I will be voicing my opinions. Asking Niantic Questions on a forums. As that is what a player should be doing.... Especially with a new system in place that is collecting data to allow submissions. That is the point of what we do.... Using the system properly and reviewing accordingly. You could review them as 5 stars and they still could be rejected... But the point is to review to see what is allowed. Yes I agree, that some city picnic areas will be prettier than some park areas. But the goal is for people at parks to have more portals. Then you need to quit with the 1stars because you feel you are correct in doing so.

    Picnic areas are things the community use everyday. Families go to picnic areas all over the world. And they are locations Niantic wants people at if they are not on PRP.... Parks are design to have people at them, and as such you should be allowing portals at them as a result.

    I don't have to set picnic tables apart. There isn't even a picnic table approved in the park yet.... Something that you admit has significant use to the community at parks because they are designed to have people at them. Yet you are refusing? It also says a series of objects are allowed if they are far enough apart are allowed to be approved as multiple portals.... If a park only has a few structures and a ton of picnic areas, they are allowed per the guide..... If the density gets too big, than it is niantic's responsibility, not the reviewers responsibility to decide.

  • Just because you don't feel they are informational, doesn't mean they are not.... Doesn't mean the parks don't consider them informational signage at the park. Doesn't mean they should not be allowed. Parks are allowed to have multiple signs in the park. They are far enough away from each other that they are allowed.

    There is nothing informational about a trail marker sign. Define informational signs.... Define community gathering spots. Define hidden gems. Define everything. It is your opinion which is wrong. Just because you do not like hearing you are wrong.

    Thought you were quitting..... Since I did prove you wrong.... Oh ingress players can't keep there word.

  • As I already replied, you didn't prove me/us wrong.

    As always, you are interpreting words in your own delusional way.

  • AgentB0ssAgentB0ss ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes a series of approval-able wayspots is allowed. Example, Exercise equipment along a trail, a very long mural that has different depictions along it could be submitted in segments etc. A bunch of Picnic Tables which are already not allowed doesnt magically become allowed because you lined them up.

    You can't prove something significant about them all you are proving is their primary function. If Niantic wanted them submitted because people eat, sit, or gather at them they wouldnt list them as "common" park items that shouldn't be submitted. What makes your picnic tables any different than picnic tables at other parks?

  • harkonnnenharkonnnen ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2019

    You clearly go a little confused when writing all that, portal density too much or too little is of NO consideration when reviewing as per the guild (the exception is in remote places that have limited options like outback towns, NOT when your suburban area isnt as packed as you want it to be).

    Again Niantic has said NO to benches, picnic table and common trash UNLESS there is something significant about a particular one. Labeling it's purpose it was designed for isn't significant nor have you provided an example on why one should be selected over another.

    The reason foe this is simple You have no answer and know by your method EVERY bench and table etc etc would be POI which currently goes against the guidelines.

  • Simple math.... A pavilion typically has a shelter and picnic tables. (Acceptable use of a picnic table.)

    Simple math.... A community gather spot under a tree.... (Acceptable use a of picnic table, as it is creating shade and a location for people to enjoy.)

    Simple math... A fishing spot by the shoreline with a picnic table under a tree... (Acceptable use of a picnic table, as it creating an atmosphere by the shoreline with shade from the trees, for people to enjoy.)

    All 3 the same situation. All 3 are showing how a picnic table can be used to create a picnic site for the community...

    Significant is approving the first picnic table at the park lol. Yet you guys still haven't done that....

    Not significant. Naming a Picnic Table Submission a Picnic Table with a description of a picnic table and nothing else in the picture. (See the difference...)

  • GearGliderGearGlider ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stop turning my homes into you portals. You have no right to sit on my house.

  • TimerCIockTimerCIock ✭✭
    edited October 2019

    It is sad, that all of you guys literally confirm every day, that you guys do not even understand what the intent for POI's are.... It is for the community to learn the community. Do you think everyone in the community has been to every square inch of the area? That everyone knows everything about the park and what they have?

    That is easily identifiable in the review process. Parks are labeled. PRP is easily able to be confirmed.

  • AgentB0ssAgentB0ss ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wait what kind of logic is that?

    Once one is approved the others become significant? WHAT? I am so beyond confused now....


    Also all 3 of your "simple" math problems don't convey use of the table outside of their societal norms thus nothing unique or significant about their use....

  • harkonnnenharkonnnen ✭✭✭✭

    No not really, again basically you may have well describe all the locations that a table is placed.

    Though again YOU are wrong as I'm sure a park with a Pavillion or Gazebo would already be a portal. And since they almost always have a table as part of them then your park WOULD have the most prominent, significant and used picnic table approved already. Render the others common and insignificant.

  • GearGliderGearGlider ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it's easily verifiable in the review process then trust the review process when it rejects your dog poop on elementary school campus portal submissions you whine so much about.

  • MicksterMickster ✭✭✭
    edited October 2019

    "Just because you don't feel they are informational, doesn't mean they are not"


    Yes it does . I am reviewing a submission, and if I believe it fits in to the Criteria. If I don't believe that they don't then, I don't have to approve it.

    And I sincerely doubt that there is any way, shape, or method that is going to be different from one park to another (or your neighbor's lawn).

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  • harkonnnenharkonnnen ✭✭✭✭

    Also you say this but then say descriptions don't matter? Surely you want the community to know what's at the POI since they can see it from a solid distance away. So they can be not only shown but informed in the game.

  • You do not need more than 1 criteria required. to be eligible for a review. Unique is not required. Significant is "having a particular meaning; indicative of something." Okay. We are going to go use community gathering spot #1 today community. Significant because it gives the community a location they can visit. We are going to use picnic table 1 today community. Wait which picnic table is that. Picnic tables can't be located in Google maps. Significant uses can be. Picnic areas are significant uses of picnic tables depending on the environment they are used in.... Significance can come from the Title... Calling a picnic table a picnic table is not significant. Using a picnic table in a picnic area, and the title is the picnic area, is creating a significant use. Your argument is they are not significant because they weren't painted all pretty and no you can't have 30 portals, no where says they have to be pretty to be significant. Niantic specifically says they don't care on objects in a series are allowed to be multiple portals.. Hmmm. Seems reviewers are not following the guide at all. A park that was designed with 30 different picnic areas is allowed.


    If it wasn't able to be located and is not significant enough to be found out of a bunch of different picnic areas and waterfront shorelines, @imseethru would of never been able to find the location.... (A person that can't stand me...) That is telling you the community would and does in fact use it...

  • Great.... Then my rejections of Little Free Libraries shouldn't be argued then. Because your opinion says that.... I will reject little free libraries as they are on PRP from now on. I will reject statues and sculptures at entrances of buildings, as they limit EMS access. I will reject restaurant entrances as that limits EMS access. I will reject churches as they typically give more complaints about being using them. I will reject everything as a result. Trail Markers, i will reject entirely, because you can never see them on satellite view. Oh wait you say my rating will drop, because I disagree agree.... Don't really care anymore. Because your rating should of dropped well before me, if you are rejecting common sense areas like picnic areas that are used by the community as community gathering places that are hidden gems for some of the community...

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