You never answered my question, and its important. If you are so concerned with everyone else doing OPR and opening OPR to more players why are you not actively reviewing OPR? I know for a fact you've been in the bronze status for over a month. If you want to promote people to do OPR more than be the change you want to see.
This was clear that it wasn't about me. Yet people more determined to bring me in the mix, and people continue to report and flag me. Can we get back on topic? Submissions for other games are going to happen. A realistic plan should be suggested. Only one I've seen so far is a few of us actually chiming in. Instead of targeting me, you should really start brainstorming ideas of things that could help with the transitions. That is what a community forum is for.
I am not flagging you, I dont really see any flags besides the first couple of posts.
You are bringing up OPR however you yourself don't participate, while overall I am not trying to make this about you. I am trying to make a valid point. If you someone who is saying people should do MORE OPR are not doing OPR. Than how can you ask others to do something you refuse to do?
Exactly. Personally I have submitted a total of 216 nominations. I have reviewed 28,913. While not every player should review 250+ a day, if everyone even reviewed 50 a day that would help so much and OPR would have more bandwidth.
I also think before releasing OPR to other games they change how review location works. Currently every single day I run into the "No more portals to review" when that happens a reviewers range should increase for 24 hours to help review more and benefit other locations. I live in the South East US and based on my current range I dont even cover my entire state for reviews. When realistically at the rate i review a day I could easily review 5-6 states new submissions.
The other post inquiring about opr stalling and concern about too many rural submission got me to actual open opr and review because it seemed like a good idea. I'd like to make games playable in areas where they would otherwise not be. Unless I have forgotten about one, I believe all my new portal submissions have already been determined. This post is unproductive by comparison.
Yea, that goes back to my most recent post, when someone runs out to reviews their review area should expand. I suggested linear expansion but an expansion to see oldest outstanding portals should greatly benefit rural communities.
The problem I have is the idea of Lvl 30 for wizards - I reached that level in around 90 days. I'm a casual player - there wasn't the challenge to reach that level as there is in the other 2 games. It's my opinion that that's not enough experience to properly judge submissions.
>>Yet opr reviews are getting slower. Reviewers are burnt out. Reviewers are getting more and more picky. Reviewers throw 1stars on anything they can easily get a generic answer on. Yet reviewers don't even know the game plays of all 3 games. So what sense does it make only having ingress players? I'd rather have 20k pokemon reviewers in my city than 20k people who don't know my city reviewing my submissions. Because they know my city.
A couple of thoughts here:
There are several potential reasons why reviews are getting slower that don't involve burnout. Double submissions, nice weather getting people outside submitting and not staying home reviewing, more PoGo players hitting level 10 to submit than level 12 to review, etc. After upgrades were introduced, there was a big spike in reviewing that dropped off. At least some of the surge in reviews were done by people who had longstanding outstanding submissions who slowed down or stopped when their personal queues were cleared. As somebody pointed out, burned out reviewers don't sign in to 1* stuff for kicks. They just don't review.
I've been doing OPR since mid-2018 and in my experience (and that of others I've talked to), reviewers have become much, much less picky. Sports fields that are currently gimmes were nothing of the kind in the summer of 2018 and playgrounds were still being hotly debated. I noticed a substantial increase practically overnight in my agreement percentage and ratio of approvals to denials about a year ago when they started requiring an explanation for 1* reviews. So overall, I'd say you'd have been much less happy had you been submitting in 2018.
Give me your proof of OPR getting burnout. Where do you pull your sources from? Opinions?
Facts from OPR site shows that review rates are pretty much constant.
Reviewers do not 1* everything because they are burn out or picky. I can not speak for others, but I 1* a lot because THEY ARE BAD SUBMISSIONS. This is proven again, by the fact that I am rated as a great reviewer instead of poor reviewer.
See the original post. Go to the pokemonhub post and read it. They spoke to ingress players. Burnt out was in the post so my source is valid. Because Pokemonhub is well known by everyone.
Pokemon lvl 40, ingress lvl 12 or wizards lvl30 can be obtain submissions legit easily in 3 months. 3 months is all niantic currently requires with pokemon go in other countries, which is all that is needed for any country, so that is your bar for submissions.
I'd read the first post including the story from pokemonhub. You all say you auto reject everything and anything that doesn't meet all criteria when one criteria is only needed. Do you really need me to tag you all in all over your previous topics?
If you read, I actually don't want to submit on each account, because it's more logical that an incentive should be given for people who did play all of niantic games with a higher vote value. I'd gladly link all my accounts to the page for it.
I have a 4 Portals Accepted:1 Portals Rejected ratio and Gabriel still yells at me and says I auto-reject everything so I think nothing less than 100% approval rates will satisfy him.
We police our own. We report cheaters no matter which side of the battle they are in. With pogo, players just shrug and come up with excuses like "everybody does it" or "I only multiaccount so I can help others win more raids".
That is good for you and niantic has already given pokemon submissions to some countries to players lvl 40, so it is bound to happen everywhere at any day.... So... back to the original topic at hand. Thoughts and ideas of what to do with people who have played all of the games because they are potentially going to have 42 submissions at once. Which seems a bit overkill, an increase vote seems more logical.
Maybe we should wait and see what the changes Niantic may or may not make to the network. HP is a VERY new game that didn't quite reach the popularity they thought it would. I would be shocked if they give them any input on submissions any time soon.
I also wouldn't dismiss that commenter who brought up the Pokemon Company having a say in whether or not PoGo can be responsible for reviewing submissions. They have huge sway over what can be added to their game.
I think Niantic would go back to an in house reviewing team before they gave power to PoGo players. They've made XP way too easy to get in the last year. Leveling up to 40 can happen in a month with enough friendship.
As lovely as it is that the playground built for handi-cap children near me has additional pokemon in it. Pokemon spawns aren't really revelant to Ingress. I did 5 reviews last night. I'll admit I'm casual. And yourself?
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Thanks for getting us back on track.
You never answered my question, and its important. If you are so concerned with everyone else doing OPR and opening OPR to more players why are you not actively reviewing OPR? I know for a fact you've been in the bronze status for over a month. If you want to promote people to do OPR more than be the change you want to see.
This was clear that it wasn't about me. Yet people more determined to bring me in the mix, and people continue to report and flag me. Can we get back on topic? Submissions for other games are going to happen. A realistic plan should be suggested. Only one I've seen so far is a few of us actually chiming in. Instead of targeting me, you should really start brainstorming ideas of things that could help with the transitions. That is what a community forum is for.
I am not flagging you, I dont really see any flags besides the first couple of posts.
You are bringing up OPR however you yourself don't participate, while overall I am not trying to make this about you. I am trying to make a valid point. If you someone who is saying people should do MORE OPR are not doing OPR. Than how can you ask others to do something you refuse to do?
AND he wants the ability to submit in all of his accounts to add to the system burden and do nothing to help it.
Exactly. Personally I have submitted a total of 216 nominations. I have reviewed 28,913. While not every player should review 250+ a day, if everyone even reviewed 50 a day that would help so much and OPR would have more bandwidth.
I also think before releasing OPR to other games they change how review location works. Currently every single day I run into the "No more portals to review" when that happens a reviewers range should increase for 24 hours to help review more and benefit other locations. I live in the South East US and based on my current range I dont even cover my entire state for reviews. When realistically at the rate i review a day I could easily review 5-6 states new submissions.
The other post inquiring about opr stalling and concern about too many rural submission got me to actual open opr and review because it seemed like a good idea. I'd like to make games playable in areas where they would otherwise not be. Unless I have forgotten about one, I believe all my new portal submissions have already been determined. This post is unproductive by comparison.
Yea, that goes back to my most recent post, when someone runs out to reviews their review area should expand. I suggested linear expansion but an expansion to see oldest outstanding portals should greatly benefit rural communities.
The problem I have is the idea of Lvl 30 for wizards - I reached that level in around 90 days. I'm a casual player - there wasn't the challenge to reach that level as there is in the other 2 games. It's my opinion that that's not enough experience to properly judge submissions.
>>Yet opr reviews are getting slower. Reviewers are burnt out. Reviewers are getting more and more picky. Reviewers throw 1stars on anything they can easily get a generic answer on. Yet reviewers don't even know the game plays of all 3 games. So what sense does it make only having ingress players? I'd rather have 20k pokemon reviewers in my city than 20k people who don't know my city reviewing my submissions. Because they know my city.
A couple of thoughts here:
Give me your proof of OPR getting burnout. Where do you pull your sources from? Opinions?
Facts from OPR site shows that review rates are pretty much constant.
Reviewers do not 1* everything because they are burn out or picky. I can not speak for others, but I 1* a lot because THEY ARE BAD SUBMISSIONS. This is proven again, by the fact that I am rated as a great reviewer instead of poor reviewer.
Yup. I got 12 in 3 months of casual play just from microfielding with an enemy agent taking it down every day. Wasn't even coordinated.
See the original post. Go to the pokemonhub post and read it. They spoke to ingress players. Burnt out was in the post so my source is valid. Because Pokemonhub is well known by everyone.
Again this post wasn't about me.
That article was already proven to be fake news and sensationalized BS.
But again why are you ignoring the fact that if you want more people to do OPR then why are you not doing OPR?
Pokemon lvl 40, ingress lvl 12 or wizards lvl30 can be obtain submissions legit easily in 3 months. 3 months is all niantic currently requires with pokemon go in other countries, which is all that is needed for any country, so that is your bar for submissions.
I'd read the first post including the story from pokemonhub. You all say you auto reject everything and anything that doesn't meet all criteria when one criteria is only needed. Do you really need me to tag you all in all over your previous topics?
I need to move wherever you guys are, where you can get lvl 12 easily in a few months. I'm not even half-way to recursing yet.
If you read, I actually don't want to submit on each account, because it's more logical that an incentive should be given for people who did play all of niantic games with a higher vote value. I'd gladly link all my accounts to the page for it.
Not productive because people would rather chime in on me instead of actually coming up with a plan to help ingress players with the inevitable.
Huh? What does that have to do with what I wrote?
>>You all say you auto reject everything and anything that doesn't meet all criteria when I criteria is only needed.
Who’s talking about auto-rejecting anything? I certainly don’t; I’m very permissive.
Thank you for your honesty.
I have a 4 Portals Accepted:1 Portals Rejected ratio and Gabriel still yells at me and says I auto-reject everything so I think nothing less than 100% approval rates will satisfy him.
We police our own. We report cheaters no matter which side of the battle they are in. With pogo, players just shrug and come up with excuses like "everybody does it" or "I only multiaccount so I can help others win more raids".
That is good for you and niantic has already given pokemon submissions to some countries to players lvl 40, so it is bound to happen everywhere at any day.... So... back to the original topic at hand. Thoughts and ideas of what to do with people who have played all of the games because they are potentially going to have 42 submissions at once. Which seems a bit overkill, an increase vote seems more logical.
Well, level 14 isn't even halfway to recursing.
Maybe we should wait and see what the changes Niantic may or may not make to the network. HP is a VERY new game that didn't quite reach the popularity they thought it would. I would be shocked if they give them any input on submissions any time soon.
I also wouldn't dismiss that commenter who brought up the Pokemon Company having a say in whether or not PoGo can be responsible for reviewing submissions. They have huge sway over what can be added to their game.
I think Niantic would go back to an in house reviewing team before they gave power to PoGo players. They've made XP way too easy to get in the last year. Leveling up to 40 can happen in a month with enough friendship.
Yes........ That's what I said.......
What I meant is once you reach level 12 and start voting in opr, you still aren't even halfway to halfway to recursing.
They changed pokemon spawns yesterday.
As lovely as it is that the playground built for handi-cap children near me has additional pokemon in it. Pokemon spawns aren't really revelant to Ingress. I did 5 reviews last night. I'll admit I'm casual. And yourself?