Can you show me where it says a location has to be on the poi? I've showed where the rating says its allowed to be a few feet away.
I can show you in the submission instructions where it says to place the pin on top of the PoI, but that's not relevant to my question, which was in response to your assertion that the acceptable distance is further for larger than for smaller objects.
Technically that would depend on the agent to prove. But if it is seen visibly and a few feet away... Miles is not a few feet away. Now if you were talking 100 ft, I could probably see that, because of the access problems, with closing hours to avoid them, so that the portals are not locked down all night, and not able to be accessed. This would be like a mall. Malls should have plenty of portals outside of the mall on the sidewalks. Because malls are getting a bad representation because of teenagers misbehaving, that portals are getting removed completely as a result in my area if they are in the mall.
Malls should have plenty of portals outside of the mall on the sidewalks.
Hmmmm. But then you wouldn't be able to see the corresponding PoI through the walls of the malls in most cases, so that wouldn't be valid by these rules.
baseball fields are an easier comparison. You can be in home run view area for a portal, and it should still be visible. I submit a lot of portals for sports fields, so, I have spent a lot of time thinking on them. If I wanted a Portal on the home plate, I would of submitted the home plate. If I chose to strategically take a picture from second base, i want the portal on 2nd base....
Accessibility, visually being able to still see the poi from the portal location. Accessbility is more important than most Players realize. It is a standard practice for people to move portal locations because they believe the poi is important. The poi is not important, the location is important.
The poi is not important, the location is important.
Here is a major point of departure from you and, I assume, everybody else posting here. If you can find me anything whatsoever from Niantic that indicates that the location of a PoI only loosely inspires the location of a portal, I'd love to see it. I'd have all kinds of awesome new things I could submit!
Most accurate location is the place that you are intending for the Portal. The portal location is all that matters not the POI. If the POI can be visually seen and a few feet away, then they are allowed and to be rated a 5 star per guide. Don't like the rules, ask a question in AMA. But as of right now, reviewer's should never be changing a location on a portal, unless it is doing the following.
Portal is located on PRP.
Portal is located on school grounds.
Portal is located on a hospital or in a hospital.
Affects EMS.
Is a temporary and not fixed object.
Is a seasonal display.
Nothing specifically says it has to be exactly on the portal. It specifically says it is allowed to be a few feet away and allowed if visually seen from the portal location.
read the water fountains AMA answer. It says water fountains can be allowed with sidewalk access.... That is a perfect example.... Niantic specifically states portals can be located within a few feet of the real-world location and that sidewalks are required, in Help of OPR. Until that is changed, it already exists and is defined by Niantic....
*Stares out window of house* Sees animal waste container, park grills, drinking fountains 2 blocks away. I have sidewalk on the edge of my house, *sets portal locations on sidewalk outside my house.*
Technically your pavilion's are a large concrete slabs used for parties and grilling.... They do have enough room to exercise if you move the picnic tables. I have exercised at them in the rain at parks under pavilion covers.
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Move the marker to the most accurate location. You know. On the thing you're submitting
Can you show me where it says a location has to be on the poi? I've showed where the rating says its allowed to be a few feet away.
I can show you in the submission instructions where it says to place the pin on top of the PoI, but that's not relevant to my question, which was in response to your assertion that the acceptable distance is further for larger than for smaller objects.
Technically that would depend on the agent to prove. But if it is seen visibly and a few feet away... Miles is not a few feet away. Now if you were talking 100 ft, I could probably see that, because of the access problems, with closing hours to avoid them, so that the portals are not locked down all night, and not able to be accessed. This would be like a mall. Malls should have plenty of portals outside of the mall on the sidewalks. Because malls are getting a bad representation because of teenagers misbehaving, that portals are getting removed completely as a result in my area if they are in the mall.
That would depend on the supporting picture and the picture used for the Portal.
Malls should have plenty of portals outside of the mall on the sidewalks.
Hmmmm. But then you wouldn't be able to see the corresponding PoI through the walls of the malls in most cases, so that wouldn't be valid by these rules.
baseball fields are an easier comparison. You can be in home run view area for a portal, and it should still be visible. I submit a lot of portals for sports fields, so, I have spent a lot of time thinking on them. If I wanted a Portal on the home plate, I would of submitted the home plate. If I chose to strategically take a picture from second base, i want the portal on 2nd base....
This is a dilemma we have not resolved yet. But the more time we spend figuring things out, the better the community will be.
move the marker to the most accurate location. Does not say move to the poi exact location...
That would depend on the supporting picture and the picture used for the Portal.
By this logic, a portal on a small mesa would have to be much closer to its PoI than a portal in a valley.
The logic is based on needing to have accessibility to access the portal. It is a valid argument. On top of a mountain isn't accessible to everyone.
move the marker to the most accurate location. Does not say move to the poi exact location...
If it's not accurate relative to the PoI, what would be accurate relative to?
The logic is based on needing to have accessibility to access the portal. It is a valid argument. On top of a mountain isn't accessible to everyone.
The tops of plenty of mesas can be reached by car.
Accessibility, visually being able to still see the poi from the portal location. Accessbility is more important than most Players realize. It is a standard practice for people to move portal locations because they believe the poi is important. The poi is not important, the location is important.
"If I chose to strategically take a picture from second base, i want the portal on 2nd base...."
And that would be a dangerous place for a Pedestrian to approach during a game .
Don't worry, I'll move it to be behind home plate, off the playing area.
The poi is not important, the location is important.
Here is a major point of departure from you and, I assume, everybody else posting here. If you can find me anything whatsoever from Niantic that indicates that the location of a PoI only loosely inspires the location of a portal, I'd love to see it. I'd have all kinds of awesome new things I could submit!
Most accurate location is the place that you are intending for the Portal. The portal location is all that matters not the POI. If the POI can be visually seen and a few feet away, then they are allowed and to be rated a 5 star per guide. Don't like the rules, ask a question in AMA. But as of right now, reviewer's should never be changing a location on a portal, unless it is doing the following.
Nothing specifically says it has to be exactly on the portal. It specifically says it is allowed to be a few feet away and allowed if visually seen from the portal location.
This is the definition of making your own rules as you go.
"Most accurate location is the place that you are intending for the Portal. The portal location is all that matters not the POI."
We're becoming dangerously off-topic by not talking what I decided is now the relevant conversation of the thread, wizards pooping their pants.
read the water fountains AMA answer. It says water fountains can be allowed with sidewalk access.... That is a perfect example.... Niantic specifically states portals can be located within a few feet of the real-world location and that sidewalks are required, in Help of OPR. Until that is changed, it already exists and is defined by Niantic....
That is exactly what you are doing though on that screen. Locating where you want the portal location.
You are to "Set the Portal Location" Does not say you are "Setting the POI Location" Does not say you are "Setting the Point of Interest Location."
And we are back on sidewalks again!
@GearGlider But is it dog poop?
*Stares out window of house* Sees animal waste container, park grills, drinking fountains 2 blocks away. I have sidewalk on the edge of my house, *sets portal locations on sidewalk outside my house.*
Nope. I would and have located in parks.
Is a large concrete slab eligible as long as its used for fishing, grilling, parties, exercise?
@Kliffington think you'll like this one.
Technically your pavilion's are a large concrete slabs used for parties and grilling.... They do have enough room to exercise if you move the picnic tables. I have exercised at them in the rain at parks under pavilion covers.
I think you know which large concrete slab I am referring to...
Yoga does wonders. Should try it sometime.
He's a basket of self serving contradictions