And I've already read all of your points. Multiple times. It truly felt like time wasted, not a discussion. Repeating it to me personally here again just because I'm newly posting to the thread is not helping you make your point.
Doesn't matter what a few reviewers think. What matters is what the communities that you guys are supposed to represent and help are thinking. (Which no agent of ingress cares about.) Niantic says in the first paragraph of "What Makes a High Quality"..... Can you share please what it says your supposed to be doing?
Actually some people genuinely care about the descriptions. They are there to provide history and learning. Example, I have a portal i created in my town if you just looked at it looks like a brick building. If you read the description you find out the whole town was named after that building and understand its special place/importance in the town.
These games at their core are about exploring and interacting with the world. To me this just shows you will slap a submission on anything to advance what you want, make more stops/portals/inns/fortresses.
You may note that I have not said that I either agree with you nor disagree with you on any or all of your points. I HAVE said, I'm now paraphrasing my implied sarcasm, that continuing your toxic tirade is entirely counterproductive to your cause.
Honestly, I don't reject a whole lot, this has been mentioned before. The VAST majority of my rejections are benches... people still love to to submit a tonne of benches for some reason. Definitely gravestones/cemeteries too. I am pretty lenient as I have mentioned. Helped create 16215 portals and only helped reject 2631.
I carefully consider everything I 1* to make should it really should be. The other thing I 1* a lot is restaurants without any description, can't really be a local hot spot if you can't prove its not just a generic restaurant..
I cant even find the right words to describe you, so in order to not offend you, I will only say you are a CLOSE Mind person lol
Just follow the guidelines, if niantic one day say your trash candidates (dumb tower, dog poop station, water drink fountains and all other gargabe) fits their criteria, we will 5 star them, in the meantime they all are 1 star.
@NianticCasey Could you please close this thread? This, like all other of his post are going nowhere
Agreed, but louder. I actually DO agree with some of his points, but everything that can be said on either side of the argument has already been said. Repeatedly. It's not worth picking it apart or rehashing it.
But you haven't had a new idea in this thread for at least the past several pages' worth of text. It's perhaps time to start wasting your energy elsewhere?
How about instead of constant people being pains you give time for others to chime in. No one wants to talk when there is an anger mob trying to hang someone.
I have made a very specific point in this thread some 5-6 times now. As far as I can tell, even though I've politely phrased my position multiple different ways, you've at best acknowledged that I'm speaking, but it would appear that I have done nothing to change your opinion of MY opinion. Should I continue stating my opinion over and over?
It seems to me that you yourself are interrupting your own intended audience. Perhaps there ARE other people willing to speak up on your behalf? I certainly would have defended some of your points, and fairly coherently and unemotionally too. But you robbed me of all opportunity.
This hasn't been a real discussion, not in the way you intended.
I was entirely done, but since you asked. My point, explicitly spelled out for you:
You have repeated yourself over and over again. This doesn't make you sound at all like you're engaged in a logical argument. It makes you sound like an obsessive crazy person.
Mr Chris father of Gabriel, a woman/man of 36 or 64 years has again gone off the deepend. Linking people to Cyber Bulling articles and pretty much telling them to come at him better....
What are your thoughts on how to Prevent Multi Accounters from getting multiple sets of submissions and being able to review OPR from multiple accounts, which in turn gives them the ability to 5* their own candidates?
You want Niantic to have separated POI databases for all three of their games, and presumably any such future games. You want Ingress-reviewers to have less influence over what appears in Pokemon Go, and vice versa.
All of that has been, for better or for worse, entirely refuted previously in this overly long and drawn out conversation: Niantic's gold mine is not any one of their games, but IS their POI database. Their single, unified database.
From there, the conversation devolved, mostly when you yourself kept going off on tangents not related to either the linked article, nor to the separation-of-databases you're advocating for. Those side conversations all, at best, should have been their own individual threads. Some good points were made on both sides, but very very few people will ever read that far through to find any of them.
But yet you persisted. You've been your own worst enemy in this thread. Repeated attacks, ignoring anybody's opinion if it didn't line up with yours, and just basically attacking us for explaining Niantic's business model, for explaining how voting in OPR functions.
On a forum like reddit, your comments would have mostly been downvoted into oblivion as irrelevant to the current discussion, and only a very few people would have ever seen them, as you'd have to click through to find those comments. Instead on these forums, anybody looking for salient points have to wade through a frustrating mess of repeated, refuted arguments.
Yes, OPR can be unfair at times. It's frustrating when something that you personally feel passionate about, because YOU know its importance and history, cannot quickly pass through into our beloved games. It can take more than 250 characters worth of text to describe MY locality's history, that's for sure. (Yes, it looks like a wall of bricks, but it was an IMPORTANT wall of bricks a century ago.)
Niantic cannot ever and will not ever proscribe a 100% complete list of "these things are what may become portals", nor a list of "none of these things can ever, ever become a portal".
PS. In all likelihood about 6 people may find this comment here of mine: you, me, and a couple of mildly entertained people wondering about why I'm still ignoring one of the internet's primary rules of good conduct, "don't feed the trolls."
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And I've already read all of your points. Multiple times. It truly felt like time wasted, not a discussion. Repeating it to me personally here again just because I'm newly posting to the thread is not helping you make your point.
Doesn't matter what a few reviewers think. What matters is what the communities that you guys are supposed to represent and help are thinking. (Which no agent of ingress cares about.) Niantic says in the first paragraph of "What Makes a High Quality"..... Can you share please what it says your supposed to be doing?
Actually some people genuinely care about the descriptions. They are there to provide history and learning. Example, I have a portal i created in my town if you just looked at it looks like a brick building. If you read the description you find out the whole town was named after that building and understand its special place/importance in the town.
These games at their core are about exploring and interacting with the world. To me this just shows you will slap a submission on anything to advance what you want, make more stops/portals/inns/fortresses.
You may note that I have not said that I either agree with you nor disagree with you on any or all of your points. I HAVE said, I'm now paraphrasing my implied sarcasm, that continuing your toxic tirade is entirely counterproductive to your cause.
Can't share what it says you are supposed to be doing?
What makes a good Portal?
High-quality Portal candidates are those that help Agents discover and enjoy their community, such as:
A high quality portal candidate is supposed to help agents discover and enjoy their community....
What community are you helping? If you are rejecting things at places people are trying to submit and help grow....
We already know you don't know what you are doing. Mr. Chris submitter of Electrical Towers.
What makes a good Portal?
High-quality Portal candidates are those that help Agents discover and enjoy their community, such as:
A high quality portal candidate is supposed to help agents discover and enjoy their community....
What community are you helping? If you are rejecting things at places people are trying to submit and help grow....
Honestly, I don't reject a whole lot, this has been mentioned before. The VAST majority of my rejections are benches... people still love to to submit a tonne of benches for some reason. Definitely gravestones/cemeteries too. I am pretty lenient as I have mentioned. Helped create 16215 portals and only helped reject 2631.
I carefully consider everything I 1* to make should it really should be. The other thing I 1* a lot is restaurants without any description, can't really be a local hot spot if you can't prove its not just a generic restaurant..
OMG
I cant even find the right words to describe you, so in order to not offend you, I will only say you are a CLOSE Mind person lol
Just follow the guidelines, if niantic one day say your trash candidates (dumb tower, dog poop station, water drink fountains and all other gargabe) fits their criteria, we will 5 star them, in the meantime they all are 1 star.
@NianticCasey Could you please close this thread? This, like all other of his post are going nowhere
Agreed, but louder. I actually DO agree with some of his points, but everything that can be said on either side of the argument has already been said. Repeatedly. It's not worth picking it apart or rehashing it.
The point of a discussion is for others to chime in with ideas... Instead its just people wasting comments.
But you haven't had a new idea in this thread for at least the past several pages' worth of text. It's perhaps time to start wasting your energy elsewhere?
How about instead of constant people being pains you give time for others to chime in. No one wants to talk when there is an anger mob trying to hang someone.
How about instead of saying I haven't come up with anything new, how about you share something new that is important....
OK, how about an analogy.
I have made a very specific point in this thread some 5-6 times now. As far as I can tell, even though I've politely phrased my position multiple different ways, you've at best acknowledged that I'm speaking, but it would appear that I have done nothing to change your opinion of MY opinion. Should I continue stating my opinion over and over?
It seems to me that you yourself are interrupting your own intended audience. Perhaps there ARE other people willing to speak up on your behalf? I certainly would have defended some of your points, and fairly coherently and unemotionally too. But you robbed me of all opportunity.
This hasn't been a real discussion, not in the way you intended.
What point are you talking about? As I haven't seen one from you expect stirring trouble in the thread.....
I was entirely done, but since you asked. My point, explicitly spelled out for you:
You have repeated yourself over and over again. This doesn't make you sound at all like you're engaged in a logical argument. It makes you sound like an obsessive crazy person.
Damn, that the best you got? No real ideas or suggestions? Why do you even play ingress and do opr?
Here you go.... might help ya.
Ingress players could learn from it. (Yet supposed to be the best niantic has....)
Mr Chris father of Gabriel, a woman/man of 36 or 64 years has again gone off the deepend. Linking people to Cyber Bulling articles and pretty much telling them to come at him better....
But somehow your repeated repetitions to @AgentB0ss don't count as harassment? That's magical thinking.
That was me repeating what the gods of ingress agents do to everyone else. I feel for niantic for having to deal with you guys so long.
You all ready for a civil conversation yet?
@TimerCIock
What are your thoughts on how to Prevent Multi Accounters from getting multiple sets of submissions and being able to review OPR from multiple accounts, which in turn gives them the ability to 5* their own candidates?
Well how about you chime in, since you are also a pokemon go player. Eventually you will be in those shoes...
I try to be constructive and you push off my question.... How would I be in those shoes? I have never once multi accounted?
You, yes YOU reading this, you can stop cyberbullying by stepping away from the forum and stop posting.
If pokemon go gets submissions plus your ingress account has submissions that's multiple accounts like you stated.
An I'm the only one who has even offered an idea to resolve it out if 11 pages on this forum.
You want Niantic to have separated POI databases for all three of their games, and presumably any such future games. You want Ingress-reviewers to have less influence over what appears in Pokemon Go, and vice versa.
All of that has been, for better or for worse, entirely refuted previously in this overly long and drawn out conversation: Niantic's gold mine is not any one of their games, but IS their POI database. Their single, unified database.
From there, the conversation devolved, mostly when you yourself kept going off on tangents not related to either the linked article, nor to the separation-of-databases you're advocating for. Those side conversations all, at best, should have been their own individual threads. Some good points were made on both sides, but very very few people will ever read that far through to find any of them.
But yet you persisted. You've been your own worst enemy in this thread. Repeated attacks, ignoring anybody's opinion if it didn't line up with yours, and just basically attacking us for explaining Niantic's business model, for explaining how voting in OPR functions.
On a forum like reddit, your comments would have mostly been downvoted into oblivion as irrelevant to the current discussion, and only a very few people would have ever seen them, as you'd have to click through to find those comments. Instead on these forums, anybody looking for salient points have to wade through a frustrating mess of repeated, refuted arguments.
Yes, OPR can be unfair at times. It's frustrating when something that you personally feel passionate about, because YOU know its importance and history, cannot quickly pass through into our beloved games. It can take more than 250 characters worth of text to describe MY locality's history, that's for sure. (Yes, it looks like a wall of bricks, but it was an IMPORTANT wall of bricks a century ago.)
Niantic cannot ever and will not ever proscribe a 100% complete list of "these things are what may become portals", nor a list of "none of these things can ever, ever become a portal".
PS. In all likelihood about 6 people may find this comment here of mine: you, me, and a couple of mildly entertained people wondering about why I'm still ignoring one of the internet's primary rules of good conduct, "don't feed the trolls."