Position edit of portal in order to became pokestop
Hydracyan
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I am curious to know the staff opinion about this, there been a Lot of portal edit in OPR, trying to move then Far from real place with this purpose. Many portals dont became pokestop, and people are creating accounts in ingress only for this since the beggining.
I suggest a report Button in opr for both this kind of edit and for fake portals attempts.
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Preach!!! I see this a lot too. And obviously poor quality candidates and a lot of them just to fill out their cell coverage for gyms... People submitting should be given a cooldown for too many people giving all their candidates 1* or low averaged reviews. Just like we get cooldown for anything else in the game.
E mandado varios candidatos que han sido denegados sin razon alguna y estando en lugares publicos, seria bueno apelar a estas peticiones que han sido denegadas para que los de niantic puedan revisar esas peticiones y ellos den su veredicto final.
Just an FYi these threads are not meant to start bashing pokemon go players. Ingress agents do the same abuse don't lump everyone onto a bandwagon it should be a case by case scenario and honestly are you going to punish someone who did edits early on in their ingress career moving the portal closer to the object? It should take a lot to trigger abuse and some edits moving things validly do create pokestops or gyms but people are trying to paint this as a one sided issue. How about when i submit a baseball field or basketball court in the proper manner or i catch an portal i vote on and I go to it in person after it goes live after the pin failed to move? Is that abuse especially when the portal was submitted next to a railroad track and not on the object.
I've done slight edits to try and move a PoI to a new cell. Case in point... Local park playground portal is 5 feet from being in a diffrent cell. The edit I made moves it just 5 feet. It's still on the playground wich is 60 ft wide it just moves it to an empty cell so another portal can get transfered. Don't think it's all done out of spite or to try and game the system. Many are trying to make more accessible for all players.
@AgentX1976 i AM talking specific about the ones that move It Very far, totally out of place, Just to create New pokestop/gym. Distances like 10m or more. People who dont understand the Idea of AR and do not accepted that x portal is not in Pokémon.
@kholman1 you clearly missed the point here.
Most of the pokestop move edits wouldn’t happen if every portal was ported into a stop, or even just one stop per smaller cell range like s2l18 instead of s2l17. When PoGo players get submissions, OPR is gonna be flooded with duplicates submissions for that very reason.
Either separate stops from portals or increase the level of access to edit portals to agents of L12 or higher (same as opr). Hopefully this would stop a large portion of the unnecessary moves between cells which are currently flooding OPR and eating our limited time dedicated for evaluating new portal proposals.
I personally would love a report feature in OPR for erroneous portal location edits. I must have reviewed dozens of edits to move a portal from the real location in Florida to the middle of a freeway, someones backyard across the state, or in Africa. At this point I am pretty sure I know the agent, and they keep attempting to move portals that consistently have heavy RES action on them.
Not sure how it would work, but I think if there was simply a "Flag" that you could click for the completely false location. Then have this flag be attached to the account that submitted the change, An account gets too many flag and portal edited get suspended, at least for a time.
Obviously there is room for abuse but as all edits/submission are anonymous, it would be difficult to target agents in such a way.
I think in every OPR review screen (edits and subs) there should be an 'anomaly' flag that you could activate when you think there's something fishy about it (deliberate moves to break links/make gyms, nonsense edits, fakes, that sort of thing). If enough people would flag, it could go to NIA.
So many portals are large enough that you can move a portal to one side to create a pokestop while still being on the actual object. Of course people take it too far and it's a waste of OPR time. However legit ingress agents submit a large number of time wasting edits some trying to move remote portals a few metres.
Personally I would like to see like to see for instance a ☆ placed on a portals thats got an edit rejection. To impede a portals being continually edited.
Grant edit only at l10 like portal nomination.
L1 pokemon account should not be table to edit anything
Maybe limited amount of edits like submission. It could even use the same variable to count.
Or 1 edit limited for each portal. If it got rejected you are not able to try again.
@ReighElmos that’s what I i meant. TO have a way to flag the heavy abusers of moving it way of fast a POI. If it’s within the 20m of the portal is one thing, burn by the time youre up to 50 nine its just bad form of plying the game and OPR.
There’s also a documented case where people must've done edits on one portal daily back and forth to **** the fields people we’re using the portal for... POGO and Ingress both abuse the system some times. Not just singling anyone’s out.
In my area a lot of portals were in wrong positions to start with, so we moved some to correct locations to make pokestops. Some we tried to move 2 feet to generate pokestop and failed.
Trying to please 2 communities isn't easy. A portal 1 meter out could stop a pokemon gym appearing.
I prefer when portal is in place where it actually exists. If bigger, playground for example, possibly it can be moved but what if this action will destroy someones plan for linking and fielding?
@mattyFRAICHE 20m in most cases are a big distance.
@randombeard this little is acceptable. I did it too. I'm talking to thing like moving across the street and half a block away.
Is common in opr seeing a portal with several edits, one in the exactly right place and 6 around somewhere like 10m away.
@Hydraulinski not if it’s from one side of an athletic field to the other or from outfields to home base.
I understand when pogoers try to move a portal a few feet to account for S-cell placement. It’s not their fault NIA chose to go with a different level when porting from Ingress. If they try to move the portal to somewhere the POI doesn’t exist is where I tend to draw the line.
What I am talking about:
The portal is the Jesus statue. Easily a change about 10metres away...
Oh dam. WE can do pictures now too. That’ll make explaining ourselves so much easier now.
@mattyFRAICHE , only if you level up. 😒
@Glenuendo 😫
I am curious about how you are able to tell the purpose of the portal edit? All OPR shows is a location to select from with multiple choices if there have been more than one location edit submitted. When ever I get these I never assume the purpose, I just assume that who ever put submitted the edit doesn't know what they are doing or they have some ulterior motive to submit an edit.
@CriminalBizzy is common to see also a edit in description with something like "please the left one. It will not affect the game in ingress and improve Pokemon".
Most is edits like that are clearly just to make it closer to someone house/job/school.
What about this one? It's a panel on the wall of a mall, exactly where the green spot is. How does needing to enter the mall improve the game?
Obs: this is the second round of this particular portal. The previous attempt has like seven suggestions inside and just the correct outside.
I have actually not seen a portal edit with a comment like that for Pokemon. A submission? Ya, I have seen a few here and there that make mention of Pokemon, but those usually get lower ratings because we can't have portals with invalid descriptions.
@Patka07
I prefer when portal is in place where it actually exists.
This. I am constantly correcting portals... they should be where the XM is emanating. duh.
@CriminalBizzy you must be to lucky to live arround honest people. It's a verry common practice here where I live. People get mad because their submission didn't became pokestops and them try to move it far from the real place.
@Hydraulinski I think it depends on the Ingress community. From my personal experience, the communities that I have been involved with will try to recruit pokemon players. Maybe that is something your community could try?
Join a Pokego discord channel, fb group or reddit page, you'll see many who do against TOS whereas fake portal creations, moves, approvals to multiaccounts, spoofs, etc. I'm not saying it's just the pokemon crowd, but at this time it is the majority over the Ingress agents.