Are the playgrounds on the beach valid portal?
I wondered if the playgrounds on the beach were valid portals or were refused as seasonal or otherwise not reachable at any time. Since it is summer many requests are coming out of these parks and I do not know how to evaluate them, what do you think?
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ChamaleonX
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If they are permanent playgrounds, which are there every month of the year, year after year, I would assume that they are valid portals because they are socially interesting and because of their permanent location. But if the playground disappears after the summer or appears only in summer, then it would not approve it as a valid portal.
One way to check if they are permanent is to look in Google Maps and see if there are old photos of that area.
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@ChamaleonX A playground on the beach is only accessible in the summer months, I can't always reach it. Then how do I determine if it will be permanent? Most of the time they can be moved because they are not fixed in the ground (or sand).
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@mortuus I agree, but how do I determine if it is permanent just by looking at a photo? Has Niantic never talked about these POI? And are beaches in general accepted?
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TheFarix
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Being accessible for part of the year is not a removal criterion. Nor is the fact that the equipment is movable means it is not permanent. A playground is simply an area set aside for recreation and play, often geared towards children. It is the designation and design of the area, and not the equipment that is there, that defines a playground.
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Mickster
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So, they are physically moved from that area in after Summer is over? Or are is the area closed for access? In my opinion, if they are just not accessible , then I would suggest they are like an amusement park, or a Renaissance Fair. But if they are completely removed and put into storage (?), then they might not come back, next year. Like Holiday Decorations.
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Mickster
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@TheRangerHoxel - It being seasonal, and no promise of them being there next year, I would 1* them under Portal Criteria, and the reason being "Temporary or Seasonal "
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If they are permanent playgrounds, which are there every month of the year, year after year, I would assume that they are valid portals because they are socially interesting and because of their permanent location. But if the playground disappears after the summer or appears only in summer, then it would not approve it as a valid portal.
One way to check if they are permanent is to look in Google Maps and see if there are old photos of that area.
@ChamaleonX A playground on the beach is only accessible in the summer months, I can't always reach it. Then how do I determine if it will be permanent? Most of the time they can be moved because they are not fixed in the ground (or sand).
unless they are permanent they should not get accepted if they move by water or whatever imo.
@mortuus I agree, but how do I determine if it is permanent just by looking at a photo? Has Niantic never talked about these POI? And are beaches in general accepted?
Being accessible for part of the year is not a removal criterion. Nor is the fact that the equipment is movable means it is not permanent. A playground is simply an area set aside for recreation and play, often geared towards children. It is the designation and design of the area, and not the equipment that is there, that defines a playground.
So, they are physically moved from that area in after Summer is over? Or are is the area closed for access? In my opinion, if they are just not accessible , then I would suggest they are like an amusement park, or a Renaissance Fair. But if they are completely removed and put into storage (?), then they might not come back, next year. Like Holiday Decorations.
@Mickster it is not sure that the next year they will come back here, so can we consider as "Temporary or Seasonal Exposure"? This is my doubt..
If a request like this happened to you, how would you rate it?
@TheRangerHoxel - It being seasonal, and no promise of them being there next year, I would 1* them under Portal Criteria, and the reason being "Temporary or Seasonal "
If the point of interest exists even if I can't access it due to certain time issues then it is a valid candidate. For example a lot of parks close daily and become inaccessible since they become gated enclosures at night. Even though this might be a seasonal opening or closing of a location to access the POI, it is still a valid candidate if it exists there the entire time. Even though we might not have access to it during the off seasons, a park ranger or beach cleaning crew would still be able to access to POI.
@Mickster - perfect, thanks!
Umm are we kidding @Mickster you are wrong. It isn't a temporary portal in this case it is a portal that is only open to the public during the summer 5*. Portal access should not be an issue in this case it is just like having a large water slide in a water amusement park. Follow the rules and quit overthinking it.
@TheRangerHoxel If you need to verify if the playground is permanent, in addition to trying to look at old photos of the area you can ask police or people in the town hall. This way you will know if the patio is temporary and disappears after the summer or if it is an installation that is always there but that is closed in other seasons. As other forum members have already told you, the one you can not access is not a reason to say that it is an unacceptable portal.