I've got bronze Reclaimer recently, I'll keep it in that state for now. If Quantum Capsules were still a thing I would probably keep going. But for now high xmp's are too valuable to be wasted like that, even having kinetic programs.
i would prefer it greatly if Machina was more limited:
Red fields would be awesome
Would be more AP gained, when you destroy red. Might move more agents to work on clearing it. If the portals dropped xmps that would greatly help as well.
SOOOOO much potential fun going after mindless garbage!
Yikes,,, now that is how u **** your own game, good job niantic
so...you're not going to get the easy AP and just complain about it? Alright.
Ingress is a game of strategy and planning, not a game of racking up as much AP as possible. Considering a Level 8 agent is fully capable of doing everything, AP is the least important thing in the game.
Imagine having multiple ways to play the game. You can't really do any of this strategy without clearing what's in the way. Before you say that's the point, you had to clear your enemy's links and fields for your planned spines.
I don't understand having at least some change up to the game. Niantic has already adjusted the machina a few times and if it's something that changes every quarter I think it could incorporate more than just blocking links. For example, what if the next implementation of machina is done without needing links to spread the machina out?
As this is in reply to a post showing Machina dominated areas, the problem is that in these kinds of playing environments is field building becomes almost impossible so you are losing ways to play.
The only way to play ingress in that mess is to destroy and capture as there is no practical way to compete with a nearly unconstrained bot that never sleeps once it passes a critical level of local portal control.
Now, if they modified the algorithm to make links and fields more like a real player (not this random blocker garbage) then I could see it being fun to play against.
As it is now, most of the time machina is too often either really rare or freakishly dominant.
Except it's not easy AP. 4+ X8s per portal, an absolute ton of fuel use and hours and hours of time against an opponent that just doesn't care.
I made a ton of xp today just by sitting in the bus to work, thanks red!
You can sneeze and destroy the resos...
With Level 8 week coming up, I'd love to read sitreps of people doing a Level 1 to Level 16 speed run just Reclaiming Machina Portals
Got big plans?
Not me, my city isn't portal dense enough to even try
You’d need something like 2000 reclaims (including points for destroying resos, mods and links) and that’s with a 6x AP bonus as Apex will count as 3x.
Machina is MUCH harder to **** now. They grow to L8 very quickly. They have lots of links and 4 SBUL to increase mitigation.
Neutralizing them takes time, and many bursters. You can't hack the M8 to get decent gear - it just sucks XMPs and XM out of you.
I was never a Purifier. Machina doesn't even give the visual reward thrill that the other faction does. I prefer to make layered fields, 2-20 kilometers on each side.
HOWEVER, I think this state is temporary. Machina will spread to all portals, then die off again. The first person to claim each of those portals, even years from now, will get Reclaimer credit. It will encourage people to explore.
Hopefully when the next Machina generation comes, it'll be easier to play alongside.
I have always wondered what the game would have looked like if Niantic would have released a third faction many years ago when it was more popular. It just feels like it's too late now. There's not enough players left to control even a computer generated third faction that doesn't make fields and is easy to destroy. The answer is more players but Niantic isn't even trying to advertise the game. Machina is simply highlighting what we've all been saying for a while now. There are more people leaving than starting the game. It's starting to look more obvious that machina isn't the solution.
I don’t understand why you need to whine about a bitter fate when you can just destroy the red portals? It's so simple!
I envy you so much, so much free experience for leveling up an agent ... Oh, it's a pity I don't have so many portals.
An apex would be 6x and that makes any reclaimed machina portal 7986 AP without anything else.
You obviously are not playing against them, 4 SBUL + a few links = multiple XMP to take it down.
Oh no, it takes 4 xmps! You make it sound like these bursters are gone forever. I remember when I had to waste my entire inventory for one guarded portal. It's really nothing in the perspective of things.
If anything, ultra strikes can take off mods regardless of its level.
The point is that, in many areas, there are hundreds of them per active player and many players prefer to play the building side of the game more than the destructive side.
Nevertheless, if the Machina links were less of a chaotic mess of long 2-4 km blocker links (which is really annoying if you play on foot), I’d enjoy playing against it much more.
Actually, it’s 12786 AP as you also get the 800 regular capture points . So over 2000 reclaims to go from level 1 to 16 (If you include the points for destroyed resonators, mods , and links, which brings it up to about 20,000 AP each)
NiHope somthing new with Machina happend soon when agents are on Anomaly or if some team win Machina remove from Ingress. @NianticBrian
@jontebula there is a medal now, i doubt it will get removed.
I did say not counting anything else 😉
Plenty of medals that can't be achieved anymore due to Niantic changing/stopping stuff