(Request) Is it possible to display the date the portal went live?

tp235tp235 ✭✭✭✭

This has been a request for some time, so we will include it here.

Is it possible to display the date the portal went live?

Ingress has a history of about 10 years since it started with 5000 origin portals.

During that time, many portals have gone live.

And now, Niantic's other game, Pokémon GO, shows roughly when they went live.

So, is it possible to do the same with Ingress, preferably with a more detailed view?


  • GrogyanGrogyan ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why does this information matter?

  • tp235tp235 ✭✭✭✭

    Originally I wanted to have a time lapse video of how portals around the world have been live by people, and one of the things I thought this would do is cause people to reevaluate the value of portals.

    It will also help us to identify the causes of the portal's recent decline in quality over the past few years and the various problems it has been suffering from.

  • tp235tp235 ✭✭✭✭

    I know that you can check approximate years on PGO.

    However, PGO does not have an intel map, nor does it have dynamic links.

    Therefore, there is almost no way to know the origin portals that were installed in 5,000 locations around the world in 2012.

    So we think it would be good if we could do this in Ingress, and if we can, we see no disadvantage in having a clear date specified.

  • EvilSuperHerosEvilSuperHeros ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you keep track of your emails on when stuff goes live, you can make your own maps/graphics for it. I used to have a map for everything that went live for Seer somewhere.

    Well actually ****. We can't do that anymore. Emails don't have coordinates in them anymore. Yet another cr4ppy change.

  • MrNateJoMrNateJo ✭✭✭

    A bit of a pain but the submission emails still contain the coordinates

  • GrogyanGrogyan ✭✭✭✭✭

    The quality of nominations is directly related to Niantic pillaging Ingress to create a new product, specifically for pokemon go.

    We saw this happen, with Wayfarer, after nominations from Ingress were halted, to see the garbage that Ingress players had submitted.

    When Ingress was reviewing and nominating stuff again, there was still garbage.

    Over the course of a year or so, the amount of garbage dropped off.

    That is until pokemon go players got into it.

    Niantic have not sufficiently dealt with the belligerent gaming of Wayfarer to suit only pokemon go, followed by Tintino stating that that the policy of ensuring that it remained game agnostic has been thrown out with NBA All World.

    Niantic just digging a deeper hole for themselves.

    A good number of wayspots nominated by pokemon players are high quality. This isn't the issue.

  • tp235tp235 ✭✭✭✭

    I agree that the current Wayfarer team is mass producing garbage.

    But, I'm afraid I have to disagree with the last line.

    Quality varies greatly depending on its location.

    The current wayspot nominations pick up the occasional DIAMOND, but most are COAL.

    Well, this is because most of the diamonds in the developed world have been mined by Ingress by 2015.

    Diamonds are already depleted in the US, Japan, Germany, France, and the UK.

    Also, Spain has several cities where POGO trainers have filled the entire area with coal.

    Today, diamonds can still be mined in countries where there were few players back then. Africa in particular is a treasure trove of diamonds.

    However, the countries I just mentioned have very few diamonds left, while POGO trainers are still insisting that acrylics are diamonds.

  • MoogModularMoogModular ✭✭✭✭✭

    You don't need them anymore because everything is in the Wayfarer contribution page. There's already scripts to populate your submissions to a Google Map.

  • MoogModularMoogModular ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is really a narrow mind of looking at submissions and trying to put Pokémon Go at the blame of poor quality submissions.

    Ingress had the same problems initially especially with the Seer medal. The quality of initial Ingress portals shouldn't even be grandfathered but they are.

  • tp235tp235 ✭✭✭✭

    In that regard, even if it is an origin portal, problematic portals should be sorted out.

    That is no different in 2012 when Niantic was reviewing it or today when it is being reviewed on Wayfarer.

    So I deal with problematic portals nominators the same whether they are Ingress agents or portals that have been around for a long time.

    For example, if an Ingress agent's geek play with an Ingress SWAG in a photo, I will naturally ask for the photo to be removed. If there is anything inappropriate in the title, description, or location information, we will correct it.

    Naturally, we will delete the portal itself if it falls under our deletion criteria.

    That is no different for me, whether I am an agent or a trainer.

    And while we do not intend to place the blame on POGO, it is also true that as of 2023, there are many problems with portals that are live via POGO.

    There are a lot of players over there.

    You'll be lucky if you haven't seen a portal whose title or location has been moved after the portal's photo was somehow replaced with a different one.

    If you are a Wayfarer reviewer, you will understand a little what I mean when you set up in Japan and review 100 or so, because now you can change the location immediately.

    Right now you can change it in 2 weeks, so it's good for a bit of fun.

    Just translate the words as I am writing them now at DeepL. 80% of the time it will be translated correctly.

    Perhaps a game of nervous breakdown will haunt you.

    Message boards that never change in appearance occur frequently every 100 meters.

    Trail markers are trail markers for mere sidewalk signs.

    7-Eleven, Starbucks, and the major beef bowl chains appear to be attractive specialty stores.

    Other mere rocks and other objects are said to be monuments.

    Some of them will be obvious forgeries.

    And if you look at the map after you disavow them with one star, you will see that they are live, and your Wayfarer rate will drop without you knowing it.

    If you still feel the same after experiencing such things as you do now, call it poor.

  • KarM3LKarM3L ✭✭✭✭

    It doesn't,,,, and given the random years of delays between submission and acceptance, it probably meaningless anyway....

  • MoogModularMoogModular ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's probably there and even so, the discussion about any nominations is for Wayfarer. It doesn't matter if Ingress were the initial seeders of the map, Niantic has provided a central forum and discussion for waypoints for a few years now.

    It's just the bias with Pokémon Go players is not productive when the more important issue is the lack of communication from Niantic. Niantic apparently is ok with this quality of POIs but that doesn't mean it should impact what you bring forward to the map.

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