After all, what is the function of Machina?

MillopaiMillopai ✭✭✭

After all, what is the function of Machina? Demotivate the remaining players and permanently bury the ingress?

- Portals totally inaccessible to any other player being captured by machina.

- True disabling of previously active cells with hundreds of microlinks running in any direction at all times.

- Places impossible to create any plans or any operation because machines seem to appear exactly where links would pass.

- Cells, previously active having their gameplay for something that seems to have been created for that. Quit Ingress gameplay.

- Before, there were two teams that had the minimum of planning when studying the terrain and knowing that certain regions had no players and cleanings could be done for weeks, mobilizing several players, something impossible today, because machines appear and capture totally inaccessible portals and many don't even were captured someday by some player.

After all, what is the practical meaning of machina in ingress?



  • DSktrDSktr ✭✭✭✭

    I have a hope that machina will be explained after nearest anomaly, what is it and where it came from and what is it doing etc

  • GrogyanGrogyan ✭✭✭✭✭

    The purpose is 2 fold,

    1) those living in areas dominated by a single faction, where there isn't much activity from the other faction, provides them with an opponent.

    2) A task system is being introduced on the 18th of March.

    Providing those who just want to play in their local area, to have tasks to do, for those that like sort of gameplay (there is a lot of people just interested in that)

  • GrogyanGrogyan ✭✭✭✭✭

    There have been thousands of complaints over the years to improve the state of the game.

    From adding a 3rd faction potentially an AI faction


    Enabling those who have no opposition something to play against.

    PvP isn't gone, just refactored to include an AI faction.

    It isn't perfect, and no solution will make everyone happy.

  • grendelwulfgrendelwulf ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow look at all that potential ap

  • MirthmakerMirthmaker ✭✭✭✭

    Depends. In heavy urban areas it means which public transportation vehicle are you taking today.

  • EvilSuperHerosEvilSuperHeros ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not everywhere has decent public transportation and even those that might, the red is often in places where said transportation goes.

  • SSSputnikSSSputnik ✭✭✭✭✭

    Public transport varies a LOT across the globe. A lot of our city, one bus an hour, plus, a lot of Machina infected portals are on walk only paths around the river, away from public transport. Means driving, getting out, driving getting out over n over. Very bad for fuel use.

  • MillopaiMillopai ✭✭✭

    Also, countless machina portals, dozens, hundreds. They are in restricted areas and without players. Many portals were "born" during the recent automatic import of locations and are in locations where players never existed. That is, THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY of being neutralized. Unless players also create autonomous bots to neutralize everything inaccessible without leaving home by opening the scanner in the usual way. wowww, but this is against the ToS and subject to banning. And the Machina does what? In my view this is in disagreement with the ToS itself

  • MirthmakerMirthmaker ✭✭✭✭

    For now, Machina doesn't charge on you so just get to the closest stop take advantage of the board take out Machina. Take advantage of layovers to run up your unique and pioneer numbers.

  • After all, what is the function of Machina?

    From the original Redfection suggestion post:

    This is a suggestion for adding more gameplay to Ingress without cross faction events and to help out places where the player numbers are dropping.


    The goal is to encourage people to play in whatever way they want to be beneficial.

    a. Destroyers can chase after the infected portals.

    b. Builders can field their area to protect it.

    c. Explorers can search out grey portals and deploy on them to reduce the infection rate or control where infections occur.

    d. Teams can build P8s in larger numbers to protect portals, or ring infections off with a barrier of P8s and 4 field portals linked around an infection site.

    Regions where there are very few players, or very uneven faction populations will have additional activities to be a part of, or could even farm Redfected portals in a controlled area.

    While the current implementation doesn't work for D in this list, the others still apply.

  • LcfpLcfp ✭✭✭
  • MillopaiMillopai ✭✭✭

    In theory and on paper, everything was beautiful, wonderful, splendid. But in practice and in the real game it turned out quite different:

    A) Hundreds of infected portals in completely inaccessible locations.

    B) If it weren't for the letter "A" this would be perfect.

    C) A utopia created by employees in offices that I even doubt if they have an ingress account or know the dynamics in the real world

    D) Completely utopian and not applicable.

    About the "Goal", well the perception is that places where there were no players, remain without players and places where there was relative or a lot of activity is dropping considerably. that is, the implantation of machina did not attract new players and is driving away those who remained over the years.

    Look at the overall MU performance and you will see that it is down after the Machina bot deployment.

    Machina's creators should do an internship for a few months playing in the real world to realize that their ideas are not applicable. they are just ideas on paper.


    The title of the post was an irony with what it should be. But so far nothing that was "planned" by the creators of machina has proved to be efficient or even minimally reasonable.

    It could even be just a bigger task in the game, but machina is proving to be a BOT with fakegps, harming and pushing away real players. There is nothing interesting about playing or spending real money against bots.


    To make the dispute fair it should then be allowed to use INGRESS on the PC sitting on the couch. because that's the feeling of those who actually play the game. Going out into the street to dispute who is sitting on the couch.

  • Neku69Neku69 ✭✭✭✭

    I can't understand your point, guys. No matter how I read you, it's like you got used to do the same scheme over and over. This is a game where the strategies are dynamic and change over time.

    In my opinion, Machina is GREAT. I love its addition since it's becoming an intellectual challenge. Think of it like if it was a chess game.

    PS: For those who think that Machina is not harming me, yes, it is, but I am still developing a counter strategy. Guys, wake up and watch the world with new eyes.

  • Adding to the issue are all of the POIs that are seasonally not accessible, and that POIs have been created in ball fields and parks everywhere that close at dark (ballfield 9B).

    The rate of spread is crazy and maintaining fields does not prevent link from crossing links into unused portals under the field. So when a field gets hit you have to clear countless red links to put the same link back up.

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