Advice on Historic Buildings

TheFarixTheFarix ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 2019 in Wayfarer (Archive)

I just had my fourth historic building in a row rejected and I am wondering what else is needed to get these buildings through. All of the buildings are listed on the National Register of Historic Places as part of the town's historic district. Despite mentioning that they are on the National Register of Historic Places in the descriptions and the descriptions detailing an interesting story about each building (only Jewish-owned business, designed by famous local architect with numerous other buildings listed on the NRHP, ice company that also produced its own ice cream and soda), apparently reviewers are not considering these historically or culturally significant enough. Given that my once lengthy descriptions are going to be shortened do to Prime's character limits, what else could I try when resubmitting these buildings?

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  • EngrishEngrish ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2019

    Just a photograph of the building itself can't prove that it's an historic building. If you can find a plaque or some identifier on the building itself that is within the portal nomination guidelines, would help get that building approved. If that gets it created then you can go and submit your photos of the building as an additional portal photo, then you and your fellow agents can upvote the photo to make it the main portal photo.

  • TheFarixTheFarix ✭✭✭✭✭

    None of the buildings have plaques. I guess I'll either have to give reference number or like in the justification field.

  • XK150XK150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2019

    "ice company that also produced its own ice cream and soda"

    Yeah, your standards are too low. Just being an old building isn't enough to make it a portal. If you have to include an elaborate story that has no visible connection to what people can see at the portal now, you might as well be making it up.

  • oscarc1oscarc1 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You need to explain WHY the building is historic. Just saying it's part of a historic register isn't enough. You want to give people playing Ingress a reason to stop there and learn about the history.

    An old building isn't enough either, it has to have had some sort of significance.

  • PangarbanPangarban ✭✭✭✭✭

    A reference number in the justification field is a good start.

    The problem is that reviewers want to be quick and so they judge by appearance. Historic significance isn't something you can always see, and you can be pretty sure a lot of your reviewers are taking a quick look at the picture and hitting 1* without more than a glance at your text.

  • harkonnnenharkonnnen ✭✭✭✭

    Prime helps with this as it gives you 2 pictures to get your view through as Well as an extra section for added information the reviewer might find handy to help them rate it. Not saying any of that will get it through but it's a help

  • @TheFarix I don't understand if these historic buildings are private residences or not. Cuz if they are residential properties, they are not eligible despite their historic background... You find more information in the "what makes a high quality candidate" section on the ingress support page. But maybe you already know that.

  • Jac1891Jac1891 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2019

    That's not completely true.

    If the building has its own history and is now a private building that belong to more than one family (or if it belongs to a company / brand with employees) it does not fit the "private property" category, for NIA's standards it's shared area and it's perfectly legal.

    @TheFarix To get it approved I suggest you take a better picture and a more accurate description of the historical background.

  • TheFarixTheFarix ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OneLastWish All of the buildings are commercial properties, though some are currently vacant or in a state of disrepair.

    @Jac1891 Unfortunately, because of Prime's character limits on descriptions, I'm have to lobotomize the original descriptions I used if only to be able to submit supporting evidence in the supplemental text. And I've already took photos of the entire buildings the first time I submitted them through Redacted. Not sure how to make them "better".

  • @TheFarix I have no idea why they get rejected then.... Try to push on the fact that they are not residential, maybe reviewers didn't get it.

  • I don't know if possible, but maybe in the Prime Supporting photo, include a Photo (Now that we are allowed Things from our camera roll in Prime) of the National Register of Historic Places. Could help it in a way. AGAIN I don't know if there is policy on that being the Supporting Photo for the Candidate.

  • JSteve0JSteve0 ✭✭✭

    @TheFarix "Unfortunately, because of Prime's character limits on descriptions, I'm have to lobotomize the original descriptions"

    I hope Niantic pays attention to this comment. The original scanner allowed unlimited characters in the description (at least I never input a description that was too long). I have had to dumb done a few descriptions for the Prime character limit. I think this is a serious concern for submissions of this type that require some explanation. I would also like the ability to link to a relevant website in the justification text. Sure I can type the url, but it might be too big a stretch to ask most reviewers to copy and paste into a new browser window.

  • kholman1kholman1 ✭✭✭✭

    To be honest either a plaque, sign showing what it was such as an old historic bank that has been repurposed also year numbers on top of the buildings was a common part of building during the victorian era of construction and are easy to spot in towns who still have the 1800s or 1900s central business district buildings. Another note worthy thing is if in the U.S. anything from the days before the interstate system is a prime candidate old hotels, drive in theaters etc that showcase the nostalgia of road tripping. I just got a hotel approved that was from the 1950s that is in tourist books on the old U.S. highway 80 west of Dallas Texas very lengthy redacted description saying how it is from the road trip era.

  • kholman1kholman1 ✭✭✭✭

    The biggest no no's im seeing when voting is using residential houses that are a part of historic tour of homes. just because a plaque exists does not make it valid. I use the streetview test on historic homes if it has occupents living there 1* private residence.

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