About Portal Appeals/Takedown Requests and their effect on Niantic's other AR games

DJPatesDJPates ✭✭
edited June 2019 in App Feedback (Archive)

I was wondering if there have been instances where players have been discriminate in reporting portals for takedown because of reasons like convenience for their own faction to reach portals, getting their picture submission rejected, and/or deletion of field anchors or roadside bus-by farms?

Also, would like to suggest that Niantic's 2 other games Pokémon GO and Harry Potter Wizards Unite take early copies of the Ingress map and plant them as pokestops/gyms/inns/ruins/greenhouses so that only current submissions and not takedowns are taken into consideration for said games, unless reported within said games, not Ingress. Meaning that players have some autonomy to report and appeal (or even submit) coordinates and locations based on the individual games, and not on Ingress exclusively.

To take it further, I would also propose that there should be a monthly consensus by faction/team/house representatives on the portal takedowns (if not submitted by certain organisations outside the game, ie government institutions, hospitals, places of worship, debilitating care/hospices, places of interest, etc).

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  • XK150XK150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those are all horrible suggestions.

  • TheFarixTheFarix ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was wondering if there have been instances where players have been discriminate in reporting portals for takedown because of reasons like convenience for their own faction to reach portals, getting their picture submission rejected, and/or deletion of field anchors or roadside bus-by farms?

    Do you mean only reporting portals that negatively affected the other team? It's very likely and portal appeals saw such accusations on a regular bases. However, the motives behind a takedown request are never relevant when evaluating whether the portal meets any of the criteria for removal.

    Also, would like to suggest that Niantic's 2 other games Pokémon GO and Harry Potter Wizards Unite take early copies of the Ingress map and plant them as pokestops/gyms/inns/ruins/greenhouses so that only current submissions and not takedowns are taken into consideration for said games, unless reported within said games, not Ingress. Meaning that players have some autonomy to report and appeal (or even submit) coordinates and locations based on the individual games, and not on Ingress exclusively.

    If a POI is invalid in one game, it is invalid in all three games because all three games use the same criteria. There is no need for a player to report an invalid POI in all three games to have it removed.

    To take it further, I would also propose that there should be a monthly consensus by faction/team/house representatives on the portal takedowns (if not submitted by certain organisations outside the game, ie government institutions, hospitals, places of worship, debilitating care/hospices, places of interest, etc).

    Absolutely not, this only encourage people to game the system more than they already do via OPR. If a POI is invalid, it should be removed. PERIOD. It should not be left to the community to determine if a POI should remain or not.

  • Why would they be horrible? I'm looking for parity and more fairness in the reporting.

    And if POI is valid but still taken down due to an agenda in 1 game, does it count as being impartial in other games?

  • POIs aren't being removed because of the game, they are being removed because they are invalid.

  • What if they are valid but are taken down anyway?

  • TheFarixTheFarix ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the POI was taken down do to bad or old evidence, then appeal it with the correct evidence. However, I have seen many cases where a POI did meet the criteria for removal but the people arguing to restore it were too hardheaded to see (such as on the fence of private residential property/school or lacks safe pedestrian access) or keep arguing the point that it was only reported because of faction bias.

  • Okay appeal we shall. None of what you have described were taken down. Those are obviously not good submissions.

  • JudyBJudyB ✭✭✭

    Portals that are valid have been taken down because the land owner requested Niantic to do so. One local example was where the employees of a local supermarket were spending too much time playing with the Pokémon Go gym.

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