SUPERHUMAN PLAYERS

undeaddanundeaddan ✭✭✭
edited April 2022 in General

I have a player that I play against a lot, there are some portals we fight over that are hard to reach the far side of. (Just Inside locked temples etc.) The more distant resonators are basically impossible to take if the other player is defending, completely impossible. However when it's the other way, quite often, as I'm tapping charge, the portal will suddenly get completely destroyed. It's completely unbalanced. Is there some knack he's hiding from me? Could it just be his phone connection is faster?!


Thanks.

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  • JeroenixJeroenix ✭✭✭

    @undeaddan

    I know this phenomenon well. You recharge for a while, and then suddenly it seems like the attacks have stopped. You keep tapping the recharge button to be sure, and suddenly the portal is not only neutralized, but already fully deployed (not flipped). The attacks didn't stop - we're just not seeing them happen anymore for a few seconds and obviously our recharge commands don't arrive either.

    What I think happens is your communication to the servers is momentarily severed, or there's a lag spike within their systems. Your data is then not updated for a few seconds, and that's usually enough.

    When at that portal: are you by any chance near a Wifi station that your phone might lock on to? If it switches from 4/5g to a wifi radio, that's usually enough for a good interruption of data traffic.

  • SSSputnikSSSputnik ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah - think that is lag striking.

  • GreenVamGreenVam ✭✭✭✭✭

    Noooo. Here the matter is different. There are already modified game clients that take out 3 or 4 portals with the strongest shields in 2 seconds. How else to explain the fact that you put 4 very rare shields on several portals, and after 2 seconds they are gray again? Then you can repeat, but the portals will again be destroyed by the enemy player. About charging, I generally keep quiet. You can stand in the center of the portal, throw bomb after bomb, and the result will be zero, because the portal is immediately healed at full strength. Sometimes portals cannot be demolished for individual agents.

  • KarM3LKarM3L ✭✭✭✭

    Lag..... Specifically recharge lag is noted in the release notes for several versions.....

  • Sketchy agents with superbursters.

  • mortuusmortuus ✭✭✭✭✭

    could be exploits too, sometimes things go down way too fast blaim it on the lag only...

  • undeaddanundeaddan ✭✭✭
    edited April 2022

    The thing is it doesn't work the other way around for me against that particular player. They can hold out against me indefinitely. Even two us sit on a resonator and use 100 bursters. And he charges while riding toward us on a bike.


    Just now I tried to defend portal with 3 Aegis shields, with the furthest resonator like 20 metres behind a locked in wall, shields were gone immediately, and I could defend about 4 to 5 minutes. Then finally the last two resonators disappear and the portal is fully green. Certainly there is lag... but it only seems to affect me, something is going on, there's no way the playing field should be so unbalanced.

    This player also holds down about 5 KM² area too, everyone has the same issues with him, every player I meet on the street. My buddy just started playing and is ready to quit at lv8 because he can't make any headway against this player.

  • mortuusmortuus ✭✭✭✭✭

    doesnt sound like legit gameplay to me, 3 shields shouldnt go down so fast like that....

  • SSSputnikSSSputnik ✭✭✭✭✭

    There was a rapid fire tool. Dunno if still works/around.

    I can defend for quite a while, if resonators are far from an attacker I can usually hold the portal to some degree. Eventually lag strikes though or a fumble with client.

    Some ppl still seem able to melt VR shields tho.

  • JeroenixJeroenix ✭✭✭

    If they could reach the center of the portal, it's very possible. Strike 10 US8 in succession in the center, and between bursts, tap on the portal to see if shields stayed (if you tap, you force an update, it's quicker than waiting for the map graphics to see 'em pop). I usually get all shields within 20 strikes.

    Also, keep in mind that people might have been striking quietly for some time with low level US to avoid warning messages to portal owners. I usually do, and indeed I have been accused of this about 5 times which didn't do much good to relations with local communities.

    @undeaddan if you defended a portal for 5 minutes: awesome! It'll have cost the attacker dearly in terms of gear. But sooner or later that lag will come, it always does. I think it happens to everyone.

  • undeaddanundeaddan ✭✭✭

    The thing is, the lag doesn't seem to affect the other player. If he's on the portal finger on defense, it's impossible to take it from him. I have go for a walk and come back to try and take one more Res out. But in reverse, same portal same conditions, he can whip out from under me, nothing I can do. Just had another one, lasted about 10 secs😅. Either he's cheating, or he's somehow got the only phone/Carrier combination that does not experience lagging. Who can ask at Niantic about it? Is there an email to open a ticket on?

  • undeaddanundeaddan ✭✭✭
    edited April 2022

    The one good thing, I'm depriving him sleep. He was on the comm all night until 5am. I went out at6 and took down the anchors of his big favourite multi layer, he was back out by 7:30 to fix it lol. I'll do it every morning now, fix it into my jogging route, 10k round trip, nice!🤣

  • NysyrNysyr ✭✭✭✭

    Turn your comms distance down to 5km, it was pointed out the issue is with lightship and the comms layer. More activity in your comms = more likely to lock up.

  • ChamyraChamyra ✭✭✭

    We have the same experience here with some RES players. I always think it's some kind of stacking bursters. I know there was a tool for the redacted scanner to help doing that. I wouldn't be surprised if it either still works or just got adapted.

  • ChamyraChamyra ✭✭✭
    edited April 2022

    Opening a ticket works like that:

    Inside Ingress > Settings > Help > Report a Problem. Then you'll see a white screen with a chat icon in the top right. Click that. Enter "skip" to get Remy the chat bot. Select your topic. Then type out your issue in one go. After you hit send, the bot will answer that he'll forward your message to a human. I am unclear if anything after that will be forwarded / seen as well.

    Also, I don't think you can change the topic after having chosen, like if you think another option might be better after seeing the sub-options. "back" / "stop" at least didn't work for me when i tried.

    Afaik there might also be a possibility to submit a ticket via web browser, support.ingress.com. But i have never used it.

  • SSSputnikSSSputnik ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another botty like thing we see is insta charge. You can be full stealth, attack, sometimes late at night and its instantly charge defensed.

    It takes me quite a while to grab phone, switch to Ingress and find the portal being attacked, (lag with attack comm or finding key).

    By then its usually dead. Only time i can defend like that is if I'm expecting it and ready.

  • undeaddanundeaddan ✭✭✭

    How long does it usually take a human to get back to you on the in app help chat? Been a few days now.

  • SSSputnikSSSputnik ✭✭✭✭✭

    Normally within 24 hrs. Rarely 48hours or more.

  • undeaddanundeaddan ✭✭✭

    Well I got a reply, just said action has been taken but they can't discuss what. Was a bit annoying as it felt like a brush off. Want I wanted was an explanation, but anyway... maybe a coincidence, but I'm having alot more success against the player since, the playing field seems levelled. He's still formidable, and I said on the mail that the player is Definitely hardcore and is on the street 20 hours a day, and I've seen and spoke with him regularly, but I can get a portal away from now in situations where it was impossible before.

    What was it?! What was he doing that they could put the breaks on without it being a banning offence. Very intriguing.

  • SSSputnikSSSputnik ✭✭✭✭✭

    Possibly a warning scared him. 3rd party tool? Niantic will never give explanation for privacy reasons so... maybe nothing.

  • undeaddanundeaddan ✭✭✭
    edited April 2022

    Seems it's back to normal. I'm just filing a report everyday now. It seems they can't find any wrong doing, they could at least have the decency to explain why I can't defend for more than 10 secs average, and the other player can defend for hours.


    Are there niantic staff in these forums I can @ for comments?


    @NianticAustin @NianticAkshay @NIACHAOSMONKEY @NianticAkshay are you guys staff?

  • GreenVamGreenVam ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes i want to see comment of nia too.

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