In sympathy with our fellow Russian agents

CigArosCigAros ✭✭
edited March 2022 in General

I have changed my Facebook profile image in sympathy with fellow agents in Russia that will be the victims of Niantic's distasteful attempt to profit from the Ukranian situation.

We all know that Niantic's actions can in no way sway the people in power.

Having no real life, Ingress agents also have no influence on real life problems...

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  • TheKingEngineTheKingEngine ✭✭✭✭✭

    players in Russia have made very reasonable questions towards Niantic

    even more reasonable than the saying in this thread. Ceasing operation in a decent way is different from ceasing operation in half day abruptly.

    You are simply confusing the concept. By the way, as you claimed nobody wants data of Russia area


  • ZeroHecksGivenZeroHecksGiven ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2022

    I don’t think you understand how sanctions work…. Do yourself a favor and do a little research on why things like this are done.

    Do I feel bad about people in Russia not being able to play a game on their phone?!? Sure, it’s a nice distraction from war. But, that’s not what sanctions are about.

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  • hvn04I3hvn04I3 ✭✭✭
    edited March 2022

    Niantic is just jumping on the sanction bandwagon. It's not difficult to see who's behind all these boycotts.

  • TheKingEngineTheKingEngine ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2022

    I've proved that in-game purchase is not the only source of revenue by talking about Wayfarer. I've referred to that campaign to prove that actually Niantic wants the data several months ago. Both are on the contrary to what you concluded.

    Every time your assumption proved to be NOT ENTIRELY correct you just thow a new argument. This time you directly resort to personal attack. Very convincible.

    Maybe this sort of hate speech towards me could make you comfortable, the same as "making pokemon players suffer so that the world becomes better" theory.

  • You haven't proved anything? You know what the word proof means?


    You have absolutely no idea how Niantic makes their money, or how much they make from different factors.


    The campaign doesn't show any sign of being revenue-generating, it might just be to improve the QoL of Russian players, BACK WHEN THINGS WERE VASTLY DIFFERENT.


    Truth is you're indistinguishable from a troll. Your arguments make no sense, and you pretend to have any data to backup your self-made up claims.

  • TheKingEngineTheKingEngine ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2022


    Could you please not mention other players like they are fools? It's a common knowledge that Niantic is not in the business of selling user location data directly but it will send its users to merchants partnered with them. This is how they "make money with Wayfarer database" as far as I know, in addition to the direct in-app purchase revenue (which was seen by you as 100% of the income though). Server cost is usually trivial and very likely could be covered by income from business promotion.

    You are assuming that operation of Niantic games will go offline permanently in Russia. However this doesn't sound like the case that will happen in the future. When the sanctions are eventually lifted, sales opportunities regarding merchants partnership will return someday and in this case those data become profitable again.

    Even if players can't generate direct income, they can, theoretically speaking, slowly improve the quality of the data gathered by Niantic, telling Niantic where players go most and disclose the potential sales opportunities. Theoretically, this can be seen as deferred income and as a large company they must have some techniques to evaluate the value of this "improvement".

    I'm not saying that you are wrong but were talking about the theory to prove that you are not ENTIRELY correct and you want me to show actual data? Come on, that's private business information that won't be disclosed. By asking me to present it, it sounds like a troll the concept of which you care about a lot.

    If they can't make money from it then they should close it? Then we would never have this Ingress game from the very beginning. It sure cannot make money in 2012 and 2013.

  • 1valdis1valdis ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am wholeheartedly thankful for you "doing what you can to stop what you didn't start", please continue!

    While, seeing russian tanks still rolling within my country, it doesn't appear to be enough, it is indeed still better than nothing. So thank you, not being sarcastic.

    I'm also thankful for, as it appears, your understanding of my feelings. While our nations surely won't be friends now, it is because of people like you the darkest times might go away faster.

  • MoogModularMoogModular ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your first thoughts for anything seem to be more I must post here than any actual action. Inflate your ego somewhere else.

  • Ilya95Ilya95 ✭✭✭

    Ingress silent suspension may not be a high-priority concern right now, but watching your Sojourner/Guardian/anchor-retaining efforts going to waste really adds up to the overall tension. As a result, more and more agents claim that they won't return to the game that "shadowbanned" their country and even didn't mention it in the newsletter. I realise Niantic doesn't care, but it's quite painful seeing your seven-year-long community-building being teared up

  • DrHydrosaurDrHydrosaur ✭✭✭✭

    I guess I need to remember that many people in Russia do not know what is actually happening (that is, the most provocative affront to global stability since World War 2).

    This isn’t about you or a game.

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