In sympathy with our fellow Russian agents
I have changed my Facebook profile image in sympathy with fellow agents in Russia that will be the victims of Niantic's distasteful attempt to profit from the Ukranian situation.
We all know that Niantic's actions can in no way sway the people in power.
Having no real life, Ingress agents also have no influence on real life problems...
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Servers cost money
Russians are locked out from paying. Why should Niantic be forced to stay open in the Russian Market, if they can't make money from it?
Who is going to pay for the server load of the Russians? Us? The ones getting threatened with nuclear weapons by Russian officials? Is Niantic supposed to pay the cost?
Of course Niantic is in their full right to take their game off the Russian Market. In war there are only losers
Oh really? The "Niantic cannot make money from Russian players" theory is not entirely true because some Russian players have definitely made contributions to the Wayfarer system. It's possible that Niantic can make money by sharing the data of Wayfarer system to their clients to make money.
Niantic made decision to kick those players who made in-game purchase, C.O.R.E. subscriptions and quite many Wayspot reviews out abruptly with very short notice in advance. And you are saying this is reasonable? Are you really a part of this entire capitalism?
Making money from sharing wayfarer data???? Who would want data about Russian areas, except Russians and Russian companies, who are ALSO getting sanctioned.
Heck yes I support a company's right to retreat from a market, they may feel has more downsides than upsides.
players in Russia have made very reasonable questions towards Niantic
even more reasonable than the saying in this thread. Ceasing operation in a decent way is different from ceasing operation in half day abruptly.
You are simply confusing the concept. By the way, as you claimed nobody wants data of Russia area
I don’t think you understand how sanctions work…. Do yourself a favor and do a little research on why things like this are done.
Do I feel bad about people in Russia not being able to play a game on their phone?!? Sure, it’s a nice distraction from war. But, that’s not what sanctions are about.
Niantic is just jumping on the sanction bandwagon. It's not difficult to see who's behind all these boycotts.
I've proved that in-game purchase is not the only source of revenue by talking about Wayfarer. I've referred to that campaign to prove that actually Niantic wants the data several months ago. Both are on the contrary to what you concluded.
Every time your assumption proved to be NOT ENTIRELY correct you just thow a new argument. This time you directly resort to personal attack. Very convincible.
Maybe this sort of hate speech towards me could make you comfortable, the same as "making pokemon players suffer so that the world becomes better" theory.
You haven't proved anything? You know what the word proof means?
You have absolutely no idea how Niantic makes their money, or how much they make from different factors.
The campaign doesn't show any sign of being revenue-generating, it might just be to improve the QoL of Russian players, BACK WHEN THINGS WERE VASTLY DIFFERENT.
Truth is you're indistinguishable from a troll. Your arguments make no sense, and you pretend to have any data to backup your self-made up claims.
Could you please not mention other players like they are fools? It's a common knowledge that Niantic is not in the business of selling user location data directly but it will send its users to merchants partnered with them. This is how they "make money with Wayfarer database" as far as I know, in addition to the direct in-app purchase revenue (which was seen by you as 100% of the income though). Server cost is usually trivial and very likely could be covered by income from business promotion.
You are assuming that operation of Niantic games will go offline permanently in Russia. However this doesn't sound like the case that will happen in the future. When the sanctions are eventually lifted, sales opportunities regarding merchants partnership will return someday and in this case those data become profitable again.
Even if players can't generate direct income, they can, theoretically speaking, slowly improve the quality of the data gathered by Niantic, telling Niantic where players go most and disclose the potential sales opportunities. Theoretically, this can be seen as deferred income and as a large company they must have some techniques to evaluate the value of this "improvement".
I'm not saying that you are wrong but were talking about the theory to prove that you are not ENTIRELY correct and you want me to show actual data? Come on, that's private business information that won't be disclosed. By asking me to present it, it sounds like a troll the concept of which you care about a lot.
If they can't make money from it then they should close it? Then we would never have this Ingress game from the very beginning. It sure cannot make money in 2012 and 2013.
As a Ukrainian, I do consider the invading country's people having shared responsibility for what is happening. I'm reading
We can't influence the decisions of the powers that be
But this is a lie. You just don't want to. You don't want to take the power over the government into your own hands like we did, instead you just let them do whatever they want. So I do think everyone who is sitting still and paying taxes to the invader country government, silently agrees with what is happening. Field arts are nice but they don't stop tanks.
You should take your own advice...
The thing you keep asking for days here and in chats is called “revolution”. And if you didn’t know, it costs a lot of money (not counting lots of lives). If you don’t have really wealthy sponsors for it, it quickly turns into a simple uprising, which is cut quickly and cruelly by government. This is how any revolution in any country went, not just in Slavic countries.
No offense, but please cut this cr*p (sorry for my French). You hate us as nation, ok, you personally have a right to do it.
And we are doing what we can to stop what we didn’t start, even though we don’t have that many options. We all want peace and none wants to live in hatred.
So let’s stay human no matter how difficult it may be. Hatred won’t bring anywhere.
I am wholeheartedly thankful for you "doing what you can to stop what you didn't start", please continue!
While, seeing russian tanks still rolling within my country, it doesn't appear to be enough, it is indeed still better than nothing. So thank you, not being sarcastic.
I'm also thankful for, as it appears, your understanding of my feelings. While our nations surely won't be friends now, it is because of people like you the darkest times might go away faster.
Your first thoughts for anything seem to be more I must post here than any actual action. Inflate your ego somewhere else.
Actually, I paid for my CORE on the 23rd of February. I still have it active and I can't use it.
Most of agents renewed their CORE on the 9th of March. Meaning they were plainly robbed.
Third, we can actually pay using money on our cellphone network account.
Forth, we were not in any way informed of Niantic games being closed: no email, no push messages, no updates on the forum. Twitter, seriously? It is blocked in Russia by the government, so much thought given to this choice.
Think about blocking Russia as a precedent. Now no region is safe.
And I might sound harsh, but making innocent people suffer because you're angry about their governments actions is not justice. It's revenge. But I understand I'm a collateral damage. I don't matter.
If you’re living in Russia today and not being able to play Ingress is on your top 100 list of things to complain about then you really need to re-examine your priorities.
Same thing if you're living in Ukraine.
The same could be said globally.
Climate crisis. COVID. Wealth inequality. Starvation. Environmental destruction... I could go on.
Game playing is great stress relief.
Ingress silent suspension may not be a high-priority concern right now, but watching your Sojourner/Guardian/anchor-retaining efforts going to waste really adds up to the overall tension. As a result, more and more agents claim that they won't return to the game that "shadowbanned" their country and even didn't mention it in the newsletter. I realise Niantic doesn't care, but it's quite painful seeing your seven-year-long community-building being teared up
I guess I need to remember that many people in Russia do not know what is actually happening (that is, the most provocative affront to global stability since World War 2).
This isn’t about you or a game.
It's not about being able to play. It's about being treated in a civilized manner.
Because it is suddenly okay to treat one nation like s h i t e just because they happen to live in the wrong country.
If tomorrow China attacks Taiwan, will Chinese automatically become the new Russians and be blamed for not being able to control their governments, pushed to risk their lives by coach warriors and denied in a right to feel what they feel?
And yes, I find advising me what I should worry about an utter hypocrisy. The world is falling apart globally, not only in Russia or Ukraine, and if you are still playing ingress, you don't see the bigger picture. Stop playing and look around, it's time start worrying about real world.