Spoofers
I don't understand what's going on, but NIA Ops doesn't ban obvious spoofers.
Niantic representatives do not respond to messages on the forum.
If this is not a disregard for the agents, then what is it?
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niantic never comments open in public on spoofers and cheaters.
Very sad. Silencing the problem is not a solution.
The issue is not about comments. It is about executing the rules set by nia.
PlEaSe KeEp RePoRtInG incoming
I like to be ignored
Thank you Niantic for such prompt response
Obviously it's an honest agent, me wrong!
Such a prolific honest agent. And walks so fast through all that snow!
I wonder what could have been done?
How about banning the **** when he was first reported? Nah, what a stupid idea!
Absolutely legit agent who's doing nothing but crosses. Yeah, Lambert, totally agree!
I'm pretty much sure adelakarij and yahuidza are operated by the same person. And most of the other spoofers. I understand it's impossible to determine that operator but at least banning fast would discourage the operator for a while. Now he/she feels immortal
Weird. PlEaSe KeEp RePoRtInG and dO NoT DeFAme OtHeR PlaYErs have not arrived as usual after so many replies.
Why does a spoofer report have to be escalated to the Ingress Prime community forum before appropriate action be taken by Niantic? As another agent pointed out in previous threads, "How come Niantic does not utilize artificial intelligence (AI) in determining and seeking out spoofers?" Considering that Niantic is backed by multiple investors (i.e. Nintendo, Alsop Louie Partners, etc), and Niantic alluded to elevating the AR experience and Metaverse which is connected to AI?
Exactly!
Not just community forums but all the means of contact available. Because in-game reports are just being ignored by niantic. We can see the yahuidza spoofer is now banned because it was reported through Twitter but adelakarij is still alive and well.
Still we need to get all those crosslinks reset...
How do you know that Niantic doesn't already use AI and machine learning? These aren't magical tools of the trade. They require significant investment of resources to work well. And even then…
And perhaps relevant to this thread, we have an AI that considers spoofing to be "okay":
On a more serious note, I suspect that some of what we're seeing is Niantic's aversion to false positives. The only thing worse than not catching a spoofer immediately is interfering with the legitimate actions of an Agent. There have been at least a few instances of Agents spending significant time and resources to visit a portal, perhaps as part of an op involving tens or hundreds of other Agents, only to be stopped from taking any actions because of some invisible algorithm.
@Toxoplasmolly , AI/machine learning does require a significant amount of resources to work, but with the rounds of funding from Niantic investors, it should have been utilized effectively to deter spoofing. One can see that Niantic wants to play safe when it comes to false positives out there. From a start-up company's point, one can easily see why Niantic does not want to invest a lot of resources in a game that doesn't generate revenue like PoGo. One can also wonder if this game will follow the fate of other Niantic games like Catan and Harry Potter: Wizards Unite. With Niantic not improving the way, it handles reports concerning spoofers will contribute to the frustration experienced by legitimate players out there which can potentially contribute to the churn in the number of players in this game. #Catch22
And here we go again! uaisnrop shows us an activity of typical new player (in Lambert's opinion, of course). 30 crosses from other agent's deployed portal.
@NianticBrian @NianticThia what about link resets after bans? What about ADA compensation? We spent, I think, about 70-80 viruses during this month to destroy crosses from spoofers.
*Red lines is fresh crosses from spoofer which were destroyed by our agent.
Come on, man, control your barking spider!
Now that I read you I started wondering, is there a possibility that NIA bans someone by false positive? Like I'm curious of how do they determine if somebody is spoofing or not. Does it leave a trace? what is it that they track to say yes, this is a spoofer or no, this is a real person out there.
I'd also like to know if they're gonna develop some way to stop this or if this is gonna stay the same in terms of spoofcatching. Will they patch these ways of flying?
Thanks for the report, @Khatre! However, it'd be appreciated if such reports could be made via In-app support. Please submit a request via In-app with all the details you've got, one of our agents will take it from there.
For more info: https://niantic.helpshift.com/hc/en/3-ingress/faq/2506-what-happens-when-i-report-someone-to-niantic/?p=web&s=agent-protocol&f=what-happens-when-i-report-someone-to-niantic
That said, I'm closing this thread.