V2/V3 Payload Drone - Remote Raid Mechanics.

I've mentioned this as a possible option a few times now and I figure I'll drop it here to see what people disagree with. If you click that disagree button, **** a favor and explain why, or what your concerns would be. We know that new Ingress features need to try to take advantage of the current platform mechanics, please keep that in mind. Appreciated.


I'd like to see a version of drone that can carry a payload. Namely a Jarvis, or an ADA. This drone could be powered by XM, very much like it requiring fuel. Akin to a buddy eating berries to adventure with you.

This drone could travel on links and would use it's fuel in doing so, limiting it's range, and effectiveness. This drone could then be navigated to a distant portal, depending on how much fuel is left, it could then take a chance at deploying the viri to the portal. This chance might be partially based on how much fuel is remaining, and might also require hack attempts to bypass the other teams security, maybe we get a new mod to help a team make it harder to hack.

If the attacker was successful in the deploy this would NOT FLIP the portal YET.

At this time a 1 hour "Raid" timer would begin above the portal. The owner and res-holders would get a notification of a incoming Raid. The attackers and defenders could all then invite friends to help in the (potential) Remote Raid of the portal, maybe it follows the same structure as battle beacons, to aid in simplicity for the moment, but a battle mechanic could be discussed/worked out.


This might actually help tie remote/rural areas together with city players, it could help make spoofing less attractive, it could help takedown hard to reach or even inaccessible (for some) anchors, it could help bring back a team aspect of the game that I personally feel has diminished.

It could also **** half the players off who like to hold hard to access portals, I get it, but at the same time, you're holding anchors to a dying game, lets chat.

What are your thoughts and potential ideas that could make use of the Remote raid mechanics from Pokemon Go.

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  • GrogyanGrogyan ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2021

    No to ferrying flip cards.

    Too easy to be abused.


    However, I am looking forward to a payload capability, but where the this payload is thing like a power cube. As part of an event structure.

    For example ferrying power cubes (not Hypercubes) by drone to a target portal, both factions have to drop off as many power cubes within a certain time frame.


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  • GrogyanGrogyan ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NianticBrian @NianticThia

    The current Battle Beacon, Brian talked up potential event use cases during an Auckland First Saturday.

    You could use the Battle Beacon for an event of counting deposited power cubes.

    Just a suggestion

  • SSSputnikSSSputnik ✭✭✭✭✭

    No to carrying flip cards, especially along existing links.

    Sorry but I don't want my $400 to capture portal being destroyed by someone with a drone. I'd actually get rid of drones entirely, they are causing a lot of issues with own team destroying P8s just because an enemy drone is on them.

  • Niantic does not have a "deep think" dept. Are you starting one? LOL what radius have you expanded this drone's range to?

    Only if Nia finds a way to monetize this option will it happen unfortunately. Interesting concept!

  • Interesting concept, I am curious, what is the payout, or purpose of such a mechanic? We put in a bunch of cubes, and ?

    How could you see what I described being abused? There could be similar raid mechanics like hours of operation. Timeouts, remote raid passes might limit an attack avenue without actually supporting the game to do it. Curious, maybe there are ways to address the idea in some capacity that could make sense.


    So you expect your opponent to spend the same? A portal capture should cost you no more than the energy and bandwidth consumed, IMO. We all spend money to get places but holding portals behind a paywall sure isn't going to improve stagnation.

    I'm not suggesting it would be easy to take down either, especially if you can invite your team for defense, the more people who are holding that portal could potentially stack the event majorly in the defenders favor. Put your paid portal aside for a sec if you would, how do we improve the game?


    Niantic has XM chambers, you remember how screwed up Wendy got.

    You're right, passes might be an option to that, limiting usage or that might be just adding a P2W situation.

    Radius might be a bad metric, if it could only travel on links, fuel/distance would be more applicable, could it be reloaded if visited by a remote agent, factors.

    I can appreciate that, unless you live on an enemy network, you're going to have to go out to deploy it. The portal being hit could easily be defended locally, remote invites could be limited to those who own and the drone deployer.

    Why is the hack drone ok? Just accepting that it's there?

    Personally I think it should be returned for you to get any gear that it hacked, would be slightly more realistic.

  • Sounds like legalized spoofing.

  • GrogyanGrogyan ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pXnEmerica there are still bad actors around.


    The "raid" mechanic is Battle Beacons in Ingress.

    Need to step back and not associate things like raiding in the other game.



    The dev team have got the suite of features already in place. They just might need tweaking for specific events/Anomalies

  • GrogyanGrogyan ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Drone is not a remote raid, nearest to pgo, it is like an incense

  • And you do that on your own merit, and so do I , but you don't see me complaining about the money.

    Again, a portal capture should cost no more than the energy and bandwidth used. The rest is part of your problem :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tEjv8gVoC8

  • That was actually part of the suggestion. It brings the battle beacon more use in a potential remote sense. It expands on it.

  • pXnEmericapXnEmerica ✭✭
    edited October 2021

    It could definitely prevent the want for some to resort to spoofing IMO.

    It has the potential to bring distant agents "closer" and it also brings the potential for the funds that goto Dmitry , goto Niantic instead.

  • Indeed, given that it would actually be spoofing. The drone itself is already a big step towards that and Niantic hasn't been eaten by players just because there are restrictions due to covid-19 and the drone brings nothing but inventory replenishment. So it's a switch of one's location that doesn't affect gameplay much (although seeing the number of opposing faction drones on the farm, I doubt it).

    In fact, your proposal makes any portal available for cornerstone gameplay actions without having to be physically near it.

    It's literally spoofing.

  • AzhreiaAzhreia ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2021

    A portal capture should cost exactly what is required to physically be at said portal. That includes time, bandwidth, transportation and applicable fees, access fees etc. And that applies to everyone.

    Saying that a portal capture should cost no more than energy and bandwidth used implies you should be able to play from your couch. Which is spoofing. I'm sorry, but that's pretty much it. You, the account holder, should be physically present at the portal location to capture, or initiate other portal actions outside of recharging (and drone hacking). Anything else is spoofing.

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