Xfac, win trade or cheating?

Hi, I was looking for win trade definition, I remember it has been considered in AMAs but cannot find which one. Is it still a thing? Cuz it's been removed from TOS for a while now.

However, I am not sure if win trade defines the situation I am trying to report: a player creating an opposite fac profile in order to go against them. They are even showing off, they log all toghether and make evident that they are using this profile as advantage. How to report? It is evident from the intel map, actions and hate speech on the COMM, but still, for someone who doesn't know the background (and for NIA, that is required to keep a neutral position), how to explain that an agent from your same fac is playing against intentionally? Also, is it considered cheating?

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  • ShilfiellShilfiell ✭✭✭
    edited October 2021

    Hi @OneLastWish - if one agent makes an opposite-faction account and plays on both for any reason, then that's multi-accounting and definitely against TOS.

    Edit - still multi-accounting even with the second account being on the same faction, used as a backpack for extra gear for example.

  • GoblinGranateGoblinGranate ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wintrade happens when agents from opposing factions agree on their gameplay to obtain unfair benefits that non-wintraders would not be able to get.

    What you describe is wintrade as oposing faction is getting advantage from their gameplay by blocking yours.

    I wish you good luck with the report and recomendo to make sure this agent is fully expelled from the community and demand oposing faction to either force this player to change factions or expell their collaborators aswell.

    You may also share you experience with support system in this thread once it is complete.

  • Multi accounting would definitely be considered cheating.

  • There is a difference between wintrade and xf beer

  • Flavius1985Flavius1985 ✭✭
    edited October 2021

    By now they talk only for the sake of doing it.

    We were all there, in real (It must be specified by now), with a player who changed faction, but remains a friend, not a backpack or another account (if you want there are also photos, we are quite photogenic), drinking beer and we didn't do any action that could cause damage to the opposite faction.

    The important thing, however, is to always point their fingers without knowing and just to try to make us banish.

    Congratulations, you won a goldfish.

    Post edited by Flavius1985 on
  • @GoblinGranate Thnks for the answer, do you have any personal experience to share? Cuz best case scenario would be to get those who support the cheater banned. Cheaters are not likely to be inclined to change, especially if they do that for attention.

  • GoblinGranateGoblinGranate ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm afraid I can't provide what you need, that is why I wished you good luck xd

    I can only tell you to really make sure of that situation before taking any action. As others said, a friendly beer is ok, but building up a XF farm while beergress is a wintrade situation.

    Depends on you how hard you want to go on the rulebook, but if you are willing to grind the axe for such scenario, I bet that there are other reasons :)

  • GoblinGranateGoblinGranate ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, my guess on the beerfarm was accurate! :D

    Same old...

  • I'm not talking about farms, I'm talking about dropping a field and using same fac account to xlink.

  • KhatreKhatre ✭✭✭✭✭

    some lame players recursed the other faction here too, to do fields with his friend (now opposit faction) just so they don't have to use virus and can re throw fields infinitely.

    And niantic doesn't do anything despite multiple reports

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