Suggestions to get Ingress tracking km correctly - Bike riding

KonnTowerKonnTower ✭✭✭✭✭

Pretty straightforward question. I started a kinetic program today, rode about 3km, got back to my start location and it only registered 0.8km. I'm only averaging maybe 5mph, not getting above the 10-15 where speedlock kicks in.


Any other bikers have insights?

-The scanner was open for the entire ride

-I'm running on a razer phone 2 with android 9

-improve location accuracy is turned on in settings

-Ingress has full location and advanced location permissions

-The app has battery optimization turned off

Comments

  • ZeroHecksGivenZeroHecksGiven ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know they said they updated the way it tracks distance, but I still get better results with making sure my XM doesn’t fill up. So doing random recharges and other actions. Your speed seems okay from my experience.

  • GrogyanGrogyan ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2021

    Riding a bike at 5m/Hr, is ~8km/hr


    The Kinetic capsule and Trekker, both are capped at around 5km/hr

  • ZeroHecksGivenZeroHecksGiven ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would assume kinetic cap speed is similar to hatching eggs, if not exactly the same. Here is more details on what that looks like.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/4x8vc3/egg_hatching_speed_105_kmh_with_science/

  • vidiconvidicon ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2021

    Are you absolutely sure you were going 5mph? I spent a long time riding back and forth on a 0.5km test path with my bike computer measuring it, the cutoff is about 6.5mph/10kmph. I find it extremely difficult to maintain that speed on flat ground when I'm not paying attention, it's very easy to drift to 7-8mph even when trying to go slowly. When I would accelerate to 7 mph and back to 0 at the end of my test path, I would generally get credit for 0.1km for the ramp up/down, but no more. As long as I capped my speed at 6.5mph, I would get full credit.

    Also keep in mind that it will take several minutes after you stop for the stat to catch up.

  • KonnTowerKonnTower ✭✭✭✭✭

    @vidicon I'll have to run a speed tracker to know for sure. But, it was my first time biking in four years and I'm a big guy... To put it (not) lightly. I used to ride 20 miles a day four years ago, going 10mph. I was nowhere near those speeds. =P

  • vidiconvidicon ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not a fast rider either - on a long ride averaging 10mph is about the best I can hope for. But 6.5mph feels very slow and unstable to me. I had to be very deliberate to run my tests. 7-8mph is a very comfortable slow ride for me, but doesn't work for trekker/kcaps.

  • GrogyanGrogyan ✭✭✭✭✭

    We cannot do this, as that mechanism is via Adventure Sync, which is basically counting steps, fed from a pedometer.

    Ingress does not have his, instead it has activesync, where as long as the app is opened, it will track the distance between syncs to the server, where upon it has to fall below the max speed threshold.

  • ZeroHecksGivenZeroHecksGiven ✭✭✭✭✭

    The article I referenced, if I have my timeline correct, was created before adventure sync was released. The numbers and “science” should still check out.

  • GrogyanGrogyan ✭✭✭✭✭

    I cannot read that article at the moment, instead I am going by information from what Brian has stated about ActiveSync, and how a lot of pokemon go players have done to cheat adventure sync to hatch eggs

  • HosetteHosette ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unless something has changed or my memory is failing, both of which are entirely possible, Ingress measures time and distance between actions in the game. As someone mentioned, collecting XM is an action.

  • gazzas89gazzas89 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seriously? I'd hope not cause that's not far off my standard walking speed (like genuinely, I manage about 4km when I go for an hour walk and that's not even being brisk)

  • vidiconvidicon ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has changed. With the introduction of kinetic capsules, they updated the method of distance tracking to be "more in line with other games when adventure sync is disabled." Which is to say the scanner must be open, in the foreground, and you must be moving at a "walking pace" (which I have researched to be capped at approximately 6.5 mph / 10 kmph, which is consistent with prior research in pogo). You no longer need to do actions such as recharging or dropping items to register distance.

    See the note in the Kinetic Capsule announcement: https://community.ingress.com/en/discussion/12421/new-item-kinetic-capsule

  • ZeroHecksGivenZeroHecksGiven ✭✭✭✭✭

    In my personal experience, I get better numbers if I’m doing in-game actions. I know Niantic said they updated that and it does mostly work as advertised, but yeah, will keep recharging or collecting xm like the old option.

    Mayne I’ll ask the wife to go for a walk later today and we can do a test.

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