4 players breaking covid law
In Scotland, the law is that you have to stay local to your council area, max 5 miles out for important reasons (shopping, health care, exercise) and at most 6 people from 2 households can meet up outside. These 4 players though have completely ignored all of that to play ingress, they are at least 30 miles from their areas, some as far as 50, crossing at least one local area, and they are from at least 3 separate households. Other players in this team have also done similar law breaking but not as blatant as this (people on my team already reported the other players before but nothing came of it). I'm putting this up here to
Hopefully force niantic to take actions against idiots like these who blatantly break the law for a game
People are welcome to try and defend them, but there is no defence here, they are not sticking to the law they are blatantly breaking it for a game, repeatedly attempts to tell their faction to stick to the law have resulted in nothing more than deflections, laughing at us and this kind of behavior (blatantly breaking the law). What's even more stupid from these morons is that in 2 weeks they could have gone out of their area, but instead they think they are above the law. So im asking niantic to show some common sense and ban these players
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www . gov . scot/collections/coronavirus-covid-19-guidance
For reference, this is the current guidelines /laws for Scotland (have had to put spaces in to the link because I'm not allowed to post links yet)
Niantic is not police to enforce law.
They have broken the law to play this game, if they can no longer play this game then they won't break the law will they? Niantic can easily remedy this situation by doing exactly that, banning them.so.they don't break the law. Or are you saying that niantic shouldn't punish people who break the law to play their game? Because Im fairly sure that would be one he'll of a pr nightmare and would set a precedence that law breaking is not important to niantic
This is not a place to name and shame people.
As for them breaking the law...that is for law enforcement not Niantic. There is simply no reasonable way for a company to keep up w/ every law in the entire world. I'm personally against a company keeping up w/ where I live and how far away I travel from that spot also.
Again, Niantic is not the law. They are not responsible for making sure the people who make use of their service obey the local laws. They are not the police, there are no rules in Niantic’s TOS that say obeying the local laws is mandatory for the game, nor something they will track and, if necessary take actions against accounts for breaking.
PR nightmare? If Niantic hasn’t gotten in trouble already during Covid because of all the PoGo players breaking local laws (hint: several DOZEN TIMES more than Ingress players) then they probably won’t be any time soon. And along those lines, why would Niantic be the ones getting in trouble? What about the cell providers not notifying police when those cell phone locations aren’t at homes or ‘allowed’ places. Why aren’t they being subpoenaed/forced to hand over that data?
Niantic and other private companies are not enforcers of the law, nor are they expected to be. If you really feel it’s needed, contact your local law enforcement. Stop publicly calling people out on an international forum just trying to shame them and get them in trouble.
If you think they're breaking the law, I believe this is the appropriate avenue:
If you think they're cheating. this is the appropriate avenue:
So just to get this straight, using more than 1 account, ban, spoofing, ban, BREAKING THE LAW TO PLAY THE GAME, nah, not an issue for niantic, congrats then, clearly you lot have the correct priorities and thought processes. Based on your logic, so long as its to play ingress, I can break an opposing agents phone or **** them because as you lot say, not an issue (to clarify, I wouldn't, because, you know, I DON'T encourage breaking the law)
Niantic isn't the Covid police. Contact your local authorities and narc on them there if this is that important to you.
“Up to four adults from two households will be able to meet locally in any outdoor space, including in private gardens, for social and recreational purposes as well as exercise from Friday 12 March. People should only go indoors if it is essential in order to reach a back garden, or to go to the toilet.
Outdoor non-contact sports and group exercise will also resume for adults in groups of up to to 15 people from this date.”
It is a concern. It's not a forum post topic.
Niantic rarely responds to posts here which should be support tickets, except generally to say "Please put in a support ticket".
Post that are here to generate moral outrage aren't really going to do much to get an account banned.
Additionally this:
Name and shame people who believe they are above the law
Is actually a Terms of Service violation, under Harassment.
As was explained to me a long time ago (perhaps this still holds true today?):
If you think someone is breaking the law, then report the activity to the appropriate legal authorities. Once there is an official paper trail within the legal system, present that paperwork to Niantic and ask that they consider it. If an alleged infraction isn't worth getting the authorities involved, then why should Niantic get involved?
Call the police if there's laws being broke.
Report if is cheating.
1 is against tos and should get you banned
2 is a 'local law' issue outside of Niantic
Looks like the player has just joined the community forum only a few hours ago knows so much about the game and the players in hand, yet only recently started playing again and was only level 3 over a week ago.
Seems to me the player in question who has posted this is hiding behind this account. I am sure most people who live in Scotland will know who they are. Please sign into the right account next time.
Reflection and regret will come to mind soon to the player for the above post.
This is a community forum not designed for the above post.
@gazzas89 / @haltarratay .... I'm one of the players you're so keen to 'name and shame'. 4 Glasgow players went hillwalking yesterday in the hills on the north side of Glasgow , 1 couple, 1 extended household from 2 separate local authorities. This walking route we followed started and finished 4.82 miles from the Glasgow boundary (yes we measured it with a mapping tool). This is within the rules. I'm at a loss as to why you have said we travelled 30 and 50 miles to do this. 30 miles is almost Edinburgh, 50 miles is halfway to England.
I'd strongly recommend not embellishing or out and out lying in order to add weight to your argument. I'd also strongly recommend not posting images of you using player tracker on IITC to an official Niantic forum. It's against TOS just like multi accounting and harassing other players is. I'd also remind you as before, most players ingress activities at the moment are a by product of their real life, and at this point I'm sick to **** of people being 'called out' repeatedly because they capped a portal while working out of area or whatever other reasons folk have for being where they are. Funnily enough it's always folks of opposing factions doing the accusing against the other side. Perhaps folk need to examine their underlying motivations for doing so and I'd suggest butthurt isn't a suitable reason.
Perhaps going forward we can stop weaponising the location element of this game and just go back to actually playing it.
First off, I did not call you out, my friend did, thats on him, I couldn't care less what you do. Second, my friend, not multi accounting, so take your accusations of that right back
Appreciate this melodrama is probably going off topic, but to clarify the multiaccounting, it's difficult to believe when multiaccounting has been confirmed by yourself.
Katf was also seen in the Scottish Borders last week. Along with bleepyf at a different time. Oh and Matthew185 was down here before Xmas. When things were really bad. Those fares seem to stop when he got called out. I get the impression they think we are buttoned up the backing! Its the same players that seem to always be in the centre of controversy. They are toxic and give a bad name to the nice enl players which there a afew in Scotland but these ones mentioned in this thread are definitely the worst of the bunch.
Perhaps you want to check your boundary maps. Covenantors grave is in South Lanarkshire.
Re-read post. Did I mention covenant grave? Also buy an OS map it has official county boundaries? Seems your map must have some erroneous boundary lines. West Linton is Scottish Borders
Just and make sure you call the police, provide the proof and let them decide. Naming them here is useless and will get your post removed because of "defaming other players" even if what you said is true.
this is old but i think still useful
butthurt.pdf (dash7.com)
This is the most hilarious thing I've read in awhile.
Hi folks,
I have closed this conversation as it is not productive nor is it in the spirit of respectful conversation. As others have said, the community is not a place to publicly call out other users for bad behavior.
If you have a concern about other players, you can report it to us directly by submitting an abuse report.