Remove Artificial Speedlock

McWibbleMcWibble ✭✭✭
edited June 2019 in App Feedback (Archive)

While I'm sure most of us agree the speedlock is a good thing - sure it's frustrating not being able to hack portals at a train station because you recharged a portal 15 minutes ago, but it helps stop idiots from killing people due to playing Ingress while driving - the client side artifical speedlock in Prime is frustrating. If I hack a portal then hit the home button on my phone to send Ingress to the background and walk for 15 minutes, when I open up Ingress again I have to wait for the client to 'catch up' after it thinks I've just teleported 1km. This isn't an issue with Redacted, so would appear to be a Prime client 'feature'

So given we already have server side speedlock, how about removing the client side artificial speedlock only present in Prime?

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  • Damogran72Damogran72 ✭✭✭

    This doesn’t really bother me, I just keep the game on top all the time. This way I might get the black trekker medal one day!

  • KhatreKhatre ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Damogran72 that's not how it works in ingress.

    Pokemon go get all the distance walk even if you don't play but in ingress it's distance between 2 actions. So that's why trekkers is always lower than actual distance walked.

  • MoogModularMoogModular ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is simply not true and I say that as getting plat trekker from walking in my community with no portals nearby. The server is constantly grabbing an update on your location.

  • Damogran72Damogran72 ✭✭✭

    I think I have a pretty good picture how it works in Ingress thank you. Keeping the game in background is very good way not to get trekker.

    There is also other things that need to be done to actually gain kilometers, but they can be discussed in another thread and another area.

  • XK150XK150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    More people don't raise your issue, @McWibble, because most people don't have your issue.

    I've never had a 10-minute lockout after starting the app. Either you're doing something else wrong, out your phone is doing something weird with its location services.

  • Summary of issue: Speedlock when Prime is in the background (repro instructions above)

    Device: Samsung Galaxy S9+

    OS: Android Pie

    App Version (Settings > Scroll to the bottom): 2.26.2


  • EvilSuperHerosEvilSuperHeros ✭✭✭✭✭

    Shouldn't server side speedlock turn off after about 20 minutes? Or is that only client side with Redacted?


    @mcwibble I'm sure it will be an issue come September, or Friday...

  • Update:

    Issue PERSISTS in ver 2.27.2

  • NineBerryNineBerry ✭✭✭✭✭

    Same experience here.

  • jontebulajontebula ✭✭✭✭✭

    I dont often get speedlock. I can go in car and hack portals in 70km/h I think the system for speedlock must update.

  • DoinDoin ✭✭

    I am also driving to go from one portal to the other because walking is hardly an option if you live in a rural area. Actually I am using Redacted but once it stops working and this lock is still in the game I am out of Ingress.


    In my opinion it should check the actual speed from the GPS information only and not by calculating it from the time and place between two interactions!

  • quirischaquirischa ✭✭✭✭

    I have the same issue since... well, actually since Prime was released. @NianticScot, can you please tell us any suggestions about this? The speedlock when app is in background mode really inconvenient.

  • This is, indeed, a properly irritating problem, especially given that there appears to be no good technical reason for it. The server end has sufficient information regarding the location of the last action (or at least it flippin' well should!) to work out that the player in question isn't teleporting instantaneously between locations (or provide speed data for human investigation into spoofing) so there's no good reason for the client to be checking for cheat prevention purposes, and a simple reasonableness check on speed values in the client would be enough to sort out the speed lock.

  • GhimokGhimok ✭✭✭

    I have this issue with Prime if I'm sitting in one spot, not moving at all. Hack a portal in Prime, switch to telegram/browser/HPWU for a few minutes, switch back to Prime and I'm speed locked without even moving physically.

  • Same here. I hack a few portals. Get into my car and drive somewhere, using Maps or some other app in the foreground. When I get to the other location I try and hack with prime and I'm speed locked for anywhere from 5 minutes to 30 minutes. Using Redacted works just fine. If I remember to close the Prime application (android, swipe app away) before I start driving, then it works, although I need to reload the application at that point.

    I agree that we need something to combat spoofers, but this is making it so that legitimate players are getting locked out.

  • jontebulajontebula ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has bug now. I hope Niantic fix it soon. When Prime in backround speedlock are activate. When we run Prime Speedlock dont activate or works bad.

  • localgeeklocalgeek ✭✭
    edited September 2019

    I also am experiencing this issue, on Android Pie and Ingress 2.30.2. This "feature" really discourages playing other Niantic games. I primarily see the issue when I hack a portal, then switch to Harry Potter in order to get my .25km walking to the next portal (semi rural area, so portals are several blocks apart), but once I get there, I cannot do anything with said portal. This particular use case will be resolved with Adventure Sync that is coming to Harry Potter, but does not solve if I want to try and get foundables while walking between portals

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