Double 8s need to stay; if not for everyone, then as a Recursion bonus.
We're not finished with this pandemic, at all. It's barely safe to get 4 agents together for a farm, let alone 8. The player base is dwindling and in many places, even without the safety issue, getting 8 agents together is too difficult.
Double deploy 8s need to stay. Period. If there are concerns about having too many 8s, then make it a recursion benefit, since we were promised one almost 2 years ago and nothing has been delivered since then.
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Having it as a Recursion bonus sounds good even though I’m a good way from there myself.
yeah. Recursion needs more benefits
Not just the 15 extra loadout kits each time we go theough a recursion....
That's a great idea.
Yes totally agree
double r8 was a bad move from the beginning, now the game economy will go back to more normal levels, i dont see the reference as covid19- double r8 why ??? its fine now u can still build a p6 alone.. and u miss the point, if its that unsafe then dont gather together even at 4 ? its all about user responsibility not like anyone is forced to meet other people if u dont want..
As I said in another thread, it's both vastly safer to get together in a group of 4 than a group of 8 because it's easier to maintain your distance, as well as being vastly easier to slowly build level 8 portals by having agents deploy at different times.
Specifically, a group of 4 agents can reasonably walk on a sidewalk together, while maintaining at least 2m separation, and not create a hazard for other pedestrians or themselves. 8 agents, tend to take up substantially more space and move much more slowly, creating more danger to each other as well as impeding other pedestrians. So that makes flash farming a bad idea during Covid-19.
But then, locally we were rarely doing 4-person gatherings. However, we were organically building 8s all over because 4 agents, over the course of a day or so, could build 8s without coordinating. And because level 8 portals were easy to come by, we had a steady supply of level 8 resonators, which meant we could deploy them without worrying if we could get them back. However, if we need 8 separate agents to happen to come by and upgrade a portal before the opposite faction destroys it, the odds that we can get our level 8 resonators back drops preciptously.
Locally I foresee a massive drop in the number of level 8 portals around, which means a massive drop in the availability of level 8 resonators, which means a massive decline in the ability to build even level 7 portals.
I am a big proponent of @thesolo's recommendation that at least recursed agents should be able to double deploy 8s, but I would prefer it remain in place for all Level 8+ agents until the global threat of Covid-19 is gone.
A P8 made by 4 people allows a small number of agents to flexibly drop 8s and then leave; if they do need to farm, they can easily do so being nowhere near one another. 8+ agents is just not safe right now.
With all due respect, I don't think you know what the atmosphere is like in the USA right now.
While you may disagree with the fact that P7s provide usable gear for doing stuff, Double R8s just means making little effort towards P8s and should be left for special occasions, for example August 8th or the anniversary day
I thinking about farming
using VRMH/VRHS/ITO-/+ and a Fraker
not so useful for lvl 7 gear.
Is Covid over yet? No? Okay.
Double deploy 8s need to stay. Period.
Double deploy 8s need to go. Period.
Good idea !
Double 8's for Recursed agents is a good idea.
double r8 just make the game even more boring with l8 portal everywhere and then unlimited stuff
I think this would depend on where you live.
I think it will always be a hard decision to find the right way in giving bonus and when to stop them. At the moment i think it´s too early because we are not even halfway through this pandemic.
Also i agree with several voices of recieving benefits for being recursed or maybe get special benefits for tiering the recurse badge. Unlocking these for still beeing able to use the complete covid-19 bonus is the wrong decision!
yes with all respect, my sister has lived in cali almost 10 years.. she is this week moving back to sweden after got heart broke 2 times and out of work 6 months so im fully aware.... but things cant be forever double r8 be happy u had it for this long.. i will miss it too sure but things gotta change also... u can still bump portals but maybe not at same time and if gather with ppl use distance and common sense and u should be fine..
Even though my rival faction having over a thousand p8 right now and still loosing for over 25 cycles in a row (would be more if not by a spoofer actions), meaning that p8 are actually useless, I disagree with double deploy of r8.
Double r7 is excellent! Two players can build a p7 and farm on it, getting lv8 gear for it.
Also, the portal excuse of saying that 8 people is to much because pandemic risk is just nonsensical.
First of all, you don't need to gather everybody at same time. With double deploy the p8 isn't a rare thing anymore and the will of destroying it is removed. Second, the portal range is 40 meters, 80m in a line, that can fit over 10 cars with one person each and nobody interact. And finally, it's just a game and you should not put your life in risk because it or use it as excuse to change the game core rules.
I am a recursed agent and I say no to double deploy level 8 resonators.
That's going to be a no from me dog. 2 p8 per agent is just too many for game balance.
exactly, niantic isnt forcing anyone to gather 8 players to build p8, there are 24hours on each day and not all agents must be at the same time farm the same portal close together. if everyone will just use their common sense it will be all good with double r8 gone.
If the Ingress community isn't going to recover, double deploys should be permanent as a choice for the game. As a Covid measure, removing them now is fine.
Double 8R was introduced to be able to build L8 Portals without stuff getting crowded. Now as infection numbers in europe explode again its a very strange move to encourage people to gather again in person.
Maybe ordered by Trump himself to eradicate europe? Who knows
They aren't encouraging people to gather together, they are saying these bonuses aren't necessary to play the game
The title of their post is literally "Re-Embracing the World". What else is that supposed to mean?
For comparison, here's how other game devs are communicating:
In terms of removing Covid changes, I'm ok with that. But if the 'new normal' is far few agents, this is relevant.
More benefits?
Recursion needs at least one benefit that isn't purely visual. Even though the loadout kits are nice, I wouldn't consider them to be a benefit.
We don't need perma double-deploy. I'd prefer to see allowing people to double deploy once a week or cycle, perhaps to a max of 3-4 portals with a raid-pass system like PoGo. You can't just allow permanent 8 farms from four people.
removing double R8 deploy will just show how playerbase decreased.
with decreasing playerbase, on many places you wont get 8 people to uild P8s anymore. but this is just another point, how ingress community will march angry against any change, that can keep game relevant for new players. ingress desperately needs new players, and when you make hard for them even obtaining L8 resonators and bursters, they will think twice, there are now other options in AR gaming,