Here are some things that I think the community would really appreciate. This would make the game so much better and might even bring older players back:
1. Issues with the scanner need to be solved. Nobody cares about premium items in a game if a game itself is full of issues. Basic things such as linking issues are still a major problem. The scanner needs to at least have the performance of Scanner (Redacted) if Ingress Prime is truly an update to the game.
2. Cheating needs to be detected and dealt with accurately and effectively. Automatic cheat detecting seems to catch a lot of false positive cases while spoofers who travel at impossible speeds need reporting and might still not get banned.
3. Effective communication with the community. After a wave of bans which caused agents who didn't cheat to receive mails about getting banned or warned for cheating, the reversal mails said "don't cheat again" to these agents. This is an easy way to get those agents to quit the game. People who did not cheat do not deserve to be treated like this.
1) The issues with the scanner I am having are solely down to the rendering of particles.
Redacted used 2D animated planes for effects. Prime full 3D particle effects.
So this is device dependent, older devices such as my Samsung Galaxy S9+ doesn't have a GPU that can process that much rendering. Newer devices have more powerful GPUs.
The other lag is the loading of Portal photos from the server when doing linking and recharging.
2) Cheat detection is always on going, and is a bit of a Tom and Jerry affair, ie the more elaborate methods Niantic uses to detect cheat, cheaters find even more elaborate ways to cheat. So if a false positive comes up, it is solely due to cheaters finding ever more elaborate ways to cheat, which affects legitimate players because the similarities between edge cases of cheats and legitimate players is almost identical.
3) agree that the community needs more communication from Niantic. But also they need to be careful not to leak or suggest something that, again as point 2 above, allows cheaters to find even more elaborate ways to cheat
the comm / link bug needs urgent fix, its been there for so long i hope u can fix it before introducing other new stuff if the core game isnt working proper. U shouldnt have to restart daily several times to make certain links from a portal its above frustrating and not very fun at all..
I suggest that you stop promoting an idea that we absolutely have to pay for everything Niantic makes in Ingress or they'll die out of hunger, in every other post of yours. If that's possible.
Considering that the Board of Directors needs to see the game cover its costs, it's not about feeding developers. It's about having the game not get canceled. And if you don't think it's a problem that needs to be solved, you're going to lose the game completely.
It's a problem that needs to be solved. But not by us, the players. And it's none of your or our business, what happens on so called "the board of directors" and elsewhere. Our business as players and customers, however, is quite the opposite: to not let the developers get too deep into our wallets.
@1valdis and @jontebula are both right in this matter. The players have no responsibility or are obligated to do anything. We are consumers and the target of Niantic. Is their job to hit us with something that make us spent our money, not we just giving it out of pitty or fear of cancelation of the product.
people miss redacted, so how about a redacted UI skin maybe that u can buy in the store ? Stuff like that could get niantic some money, UI and visual things like other colors of the xm would be cool too, more avatars, beacons u can personalize etc etc... niantic needs to put stuff in store that users want. Most want media lockers, most want more key lockers how about give the users option to buy that in store then ? Option to re-arrange your banners is something many have wanted. Its all about giving the users what we want, portal scans is not something we have requested. Also we need global challenges back those are why many also left game since the casual gameplay for many is dull long ago if u have maxed your badges or just want do somethign to get a new flashy badge there isnt much for now which is sad.
I talked to one of the Niantic UI guys back in December at an IFS and mentioned this. He said it could be done, but it'd more likely only be the interactive UI (menus, inventory, etc) than the game field because of the effort to rewrite that.
It wouldn't be Redacted, but it'd be nice still. The functionality would still be somewhat the same though. Rebuilding the way you interact, for a skin would be akin to rebuilding the client.
Also we need global challenges back
I 100% agree with this, but I think they're hesitant because COVID is still a thing. As long as the challenge was completely independent (not a build/destroy etc, maybe just hack uniques or something) I think it'd be fine though. Some people would complain because locked down but at some point we need to get back into the game, and you can still play socially distanced. (I finally hit 16 again on the weekend).
A "lite" version of the client,photos only loaded on demand, no animations. Something zippy with minimal data usage. (Might even save Niantic on data costs).
Key capsules, moar key capsules!
A souvenir key locker. (Only put keys or media in, never take em out).
You say “Social”, but the problem is as I’ve noticed you’ve mentioned it in other posts (Battle Beacon), that this “Virus Situation” that has impacted much of the Globe 🌎 is FAR FROM OVER!! So that being said, many people that use their heads (smarts,Intellects) will continue to remain vigilant, and continue to practice Quarantining themselves majority of the time, and continue to social distance, wear face Masks,etc., and so on, and, so forth, until the CDC, or other Countries Governments release a stable antiviral drug (Covid-19 cure)?So it’s a great thing that Niantic has kept things to a bare minimum with the anomalies, and co-op / VS, mission based events. Players just need to maintain by playing their part by “staying home, quit whining about no RL, in-person events), and continued due diligence to help prevent the spread of the virus. All these different players throughout the blogs “crying about no social events” don’t seem to understand the repercussions, or care for that matter about what would happen if hundreds, if not more showed up to battle at these events/mission days, and end up contracting this plague, and spreading it to the 4 corners of the 🌍. It would not be good, and all for what???!!?? To have a temporary release and some fun!! Pffft, in due time. When people stop acting idiotic, and not abiding by the known, said/ unsaid rules, and start practicing much healthier habits -n- ways to help extinguish this Pandemic.....!!!
it’s not the “end all, be all” of the World, nor the end of Ingress. People just need to play their part in the biggest GAME OF ALL, Life...
You say “Social”, but the problem is as I’ve noticed you’ve mentioned it in other posts (Battle Beacon), that this “Virus Situation” that has impacted much of the Globe 🌎 is FAR FROM OVER!!
I've also repeatedly pointed out that while gatherings are not possible, 99% of Ingress can actively be played solo, and with sufficient social distancing in place. The pandemic is a concern for in-person events and things like Battle Beacons, but not general play.
The EOS protocol could have been a great event because it had zero requirement to actually interact with others face to face or even within 40m of each other. But too much "whining about RL events" stopped it.
When people stop acting idiotic, and not abiding by the known, said/ unsaid rules, and start practicing much healthier habits -n- ways to help extinguish this Pandemic.....!!!
This is not counter to playing Ingress. People who are idiots are going to be idiots whether the scanner is open or not. Playing Ingress does not require direct social interaction.
The "Community" (not really "Social") aspects of the game are suffering right now, but the point of the post you're replying to is that many of the tools we had to build community are also missing. It would be great to have them available again (like "Has Joined the Faction" in Faction COMM) as well as new features to encourage teamwork, ready to go when the pandemic starts easing. Which seems likely in the next 6 to 12 months with promising vaccines.
Ingress players are not disease vectors, unless they do things that an Ingress player is not required to do. The pandemic isn't an excuse to shutter the game.
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Here are some things that I think the community would really appreciate. This would make the game so much better and might even bring older players back:
1. Issues with the scanner need to be solved. Nobody cares about premium items in a game if a game itself is full of issues. Basic things such as linking issues are still a major problem. The scanner needs to at least have the performance of Scanner (Redacted) if Ingress Prime is truly an update to the game.
2. Cheating needs to be detected and dealt with accurately and effectively. Automatic cheat detecting seems to catch a lot of false positive cases while spoofers who travel at impossible speeds need reporting and might still not get banned.
3. Effective communication with the community. After a wave of bans which caused agents who didn't cheat to receive mails about getting banned or warned for cheating, the reversal mails said "don't cheat again" to these agents. This is an easy way to get those agents to quit the game. People who did not cheat do not deserve to be treated like this.
1) The issues with the scanner I am having are solely down to the rendering of particles.
Redacted used 2D animated planes for effects. Prime full 3D particle effects.
So this is device dependent, older devices such as my Samsung Galaxy S9+ doesn't have a GPU that can process that much rendering. Newer devices have more powerful GPUs.
The other lag is the loading of Portal photos from the server when doing linking and recharging.
2) Cheat detection is always on going, and is a bit of a Tom and Jerry affair, ie the more elaborate methods Niantic uses to detect cheat, cheaters find even more elaborate ways to cheat. So if a false positive comes up, it is solely due to cheaters finding ever more elaborate ways to cheat, which affects legitimate players because the similarities between edge cases of cheats and legitimate players is almost identical.
3) agree that the community needs more communication from Niantic. But also they need to be careful not to leak or suggest something that, again as point 2 above, allows cheaters to find even more elaborate ways to cheat
the comm / link bug needs urgent fix, its been there for so long i hope u can fix it before introducing other new stuff if the core game isnt working proper. U shouldnt have to restart daily several times to make certain links from a portal its above frustrating and not very fun at all..
Agree, often thought a flip card that spreads slowly along links would be interesting. Decay is probably a better option.
Hurry up with the subscriptions so we can actually pay the development team out of Ingress funds! 😂
I dont care about pay Niantic. I only pay from store if I need something. If I never need something i dont pay only for help Niantic.
I suggest that you stop promoting an idea that we absolutely have to pay for everything Niantic makes in Ingress or they'll die out of hunger, in every other post of yours. If that's possible.
Considering that the Board of Directors needs to see the game cover its costs, it's not about feeding developers. It's about having the game not get canceled. And if you don't think it's a problem that needs to be solved, you're going to lose the game completely.
We haven't actually seen much of that yet.
It's a problem that needs to be solved. But not by us, the players. And it's none of your or our business, what happens on so called "the board of directors" and elsewhere. Our business as players and customers, however, is quite the opposite: to not let the developers get too deep into our wallets.
@1valdis and @jontebula are both right in this matter. The players have no responsibility or are obligated to do anything. We are consumers and the target of Niantic. Is their job to hit us with something that make us spent our money, not we just giving it out of pitty or fear of cancelation of the product.
I'm not telling you to throw money at them....
I'm specifically asking them to let me pay for worthwhile things by offering them.
people miss redacted, so how about a redacted UI skin maybe that u can buy in the store ? Stuff like that could get niantic some money, UI and visual things like other colors of the xm would be cool too, more avatars, beacons u can personalize etc etc... niantic needs to put stuff in store that users want. Most want media lockers, most want more key lockers how about give the users option to buy that in store then ? Option to re-arrange your banners is something many have wanted. Its all about giving the users what we want, portal scans is not something we have requested. Also we need global challenges back those are why many also left game since the casual gameplay for many is dull long ago if u have maxed your badges or just want do somethign to get a new flashy badge there isnt much for now which is sad.
so how about a redacted UI skin
I talked to one of the Niantic UI guys back in December at an IFS and mentioned this. He said it could be done, but it'd more likely only be the interactive UI (menus, inventory, etc) than the game field because of the effort to rewrite that.
It wouldn't be Redacted, but it'd be nice still. The functionality would still be somewhat the same though. Rebuilding the way you interact, for a skin would be akin to rebuilding the client.
Also we need global challenges back
I 100% agree with this, but I think they're hesitant because COVID is still a thing. As long as the challenge was completely independent (not a build/destroy etc, maybe just hack uniques or something) I think it'd be fine though. Some people would complain because locked down but at some point we need to get back into the game, and you can still play socially distanced. (I finally hit 16 again on the weekend).
I'd pay for:
Prioritised support tickets.
A "lite" version of the client,photos only loaded on demand, no animations. Something zippy with minimal data usage. (Might even save Niantic on data costs).
Key capsules, moar key capsules!
A souvenir key locker. (Only put keys or media in, never take em out).
You say “Social”, but the problem is as I’ve noticed you’ve mentioned it in other posts (Battle Beacon), that this “Virus Situation” that has impacted much of the Globe 🌎 is FAR FROM OVER!! So that being said, many people that use their heads (smarts,Intellects) will continue to remain vigilant, and continue to practice Quarantining themselves majority of the time, and continue to social distance, wear face Masks,etc., and so on, and, so forth, until the CDC, or other Countries Governments release a stable antiviral drug (Covid-19 cure)?So it’s a great thing that Niantic has kept things to a bare minimum with the anomalies, and co-op / VS, mission based events. Players just need to maintain by playing their part by “staying home, quit whining about no RL, in-person events), and continued due diligence to help prevent the spread of the virus. All these different players throughout the blogs “crying about no social events” don’t seem to understand the repercussions, or care for that matter about what would happen if hundreds, if not more showed up to battle at these events/mission days, and end up contracting this plague, and spreading it to the 4 corners of the 🌍. It would not be good, and all for what???!!?? To have a temporary release and some fun!! Pffft, in due time. When people stop acting idiotic, and not abiding by the known, said/ unsaid rules, and start practicing much healthier habits -n- ways to help extinguish this Pandemic.....!!!
it’s not the “end all, be all” of the World, nor the end of Ingress. People just need to play their part in the biggest GAME OF ALL, Life...
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You say “Social”, but the problem is as I’ve noticed you’ve mentioned it in other posts (Battle Beacon), that this “Virus Situation” that has impacted much of the Globe 🌎 is FAR FROM OVER!!
I've also repeatedly pointed out that while gatherings are not possible, 99% of Ingress can actively be played solo, and with sufficient social distancing in place. The pandemic is a concern for in-person events and things like Battle Beacons, but not general play.
The EOS protocol could have been a great event because it had zero requirement to actually interact with others face to face or even within 40m of each other. But too much "whining about RL events" stopped it.
When people stop acting idiotic, and not abiding by the known, said/ unsaid rules, and start practicing much healthier habits -n- ways to help extinguish this Pandemic.....!!!
This is not counter to playing Ingress. People who are idiots are going to be idiots whether the scanner is open or not. Playing Ingress does not require direct social interaction.
The "Community" (not really "Social") aspects of the game are suffering right now, but the point of the post you're replying to is that many of the tools we had to build community are also missing. It would be great to have them available again (like "Has Joined the Faction" in Faction COMM) as well as new features to encourage teamwork, ready to go when the pandemic starts easing. Which seems likely in the next 6 to 12 months with promising vaccines.
Ingress players are not disease vectors, unless they do things that an Ingress player is not required to do. The pandemic isn't an excuse to shutter the game.