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Here is another problem case that represents the kind of situation that players have to try to deal with when submitting.

This has been one of the most popular playing areas for some time. There is a stop on an island, which is valid, but completely inaccessible to anybody except those with a canoe/kayak. If another stop is added to the L14 S2 cell and nobody catches it and votes on it before the cutoff time, there will forever be an inaccessible gym in visual range of the main playing area. A huge missed opportunity for both Niantic and the players, which would be an easy switch if we had the tools.

Green to Red in 2 hours this afternoon. 23,00 agreements in green.

There was no onboarding plan for the PoGo players. A great deal of this could have been solved by forcing Go players to pass the review test in order to be able to submit, because the people that are submitting right now have no clue what they're doing because they don't have to learn or prove that they know what they're doing...they just have to hit a level milestone that has become frankly quite empty because of empty XP.

They also could have given Go players an equivalent of the Recon badge because right now they have no incentive to review properly but a great deal of incentive to pass everything. If you give them reason to follow the guidelines there is a good chance they will.

I'm not even going to blame the Pokemon Go players for this, it is just bad implementation by Niantic.

I review 10 nominations. I wait a few hours and log back in. I've gone from green to red. I log back in 6 to 8 hours later and I'm green again. It's like a yo-yo. Up down up down.

No a rock is not a good nomination. No your TV in your living room isn't a good submission. I'm starting to wonder if people realize that they are constantly giving up their home address to lots of random people.

I think that the premise of this post is a valid discussion, but I think there are other places to have the discussion. The best place would probably be on reddit in r/theSilphRoad. As indicated by several folks in this thread, this is an ingress forum and wayfarer is a tool for creating wayspots. The better solution is to post to a PokemonGo community. Hopefully Niantic will see some value in creating a Pokemon Go forum similar to this forum or a non game specific community to discuss wayfarer and its implications for each of their games.

OP isn't being paranoid. It does NOT require a majority of bad-actor Pogo edits to cause troubles. It doesn't even take a large minority. It only takes a singular highly motivated player in any given area to start making the unnecessary unwanted location edits.

Niantic wants "accurate" locations for POIs. But when they're trying to squeeze out "one more stop! one more gym!" into every plausible S2 cell, the Pogo location editors are loudly thinking "what difference does 5m make really? 10m?" We KNOW of one such very loud and motivated individual, don't we? @AgentB0ss

I would posit that most edits are unnecessary, if the distance moved is less than (say) 15m? 10m? They can be rejected out-of-hand at the time of edit submission. On the other hand, there's also been lately quite a few submissions that are only "slightly" incorrect.

My most recent location edit was to put a years-old POI on the correct side of the alley, ie. onto the right building. At least with Wayfarer reviews, it only took some number of days to finalize, as opposed to when Niantic was doing the reviewing.

@Grogyan Even so it is not right to judge based on this considering how bad some of the early ingress submissions were. It is going to be a learning curve and not everyone is approving or submitting trash. Just 1* the obvious duplicates and ineligible submissions. Complaining isn't going to solve anything. As a matter of fact I have seen positive feedback and people actually 1* the obvious coal that haven't voted before it was launched to pogo. I think it will even out but it just going to be a roller coaster for a few weeks to months until people settle in on voting. Valid edits are actually passing now too.